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Hudson308
12-21-2007, 12:38 PM
I know, I know... it isn't a Hudson, but I had to share this link. Great example of what can be done to upgrade early hardware...
Scroll down to see the fabbed intake, throttle body EFI and modern Paxton! :cool:
http://www.tcstangs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64109
hudsondad
12-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Very Nicely done and might even be acceptable to some of the Packard Purists. That's got to be an "Old Club" with little new blood coming up. If I had a Neat Fat Fendered Packard, I wouldn't feel bad about Street Rodding it!
hudsonkid
12-21-2007, 11:50 PM
this would be dooable to a hudson. not that terribly difficult.
denverslim
12-22-2007, 07:55 AM
Man, ya gotta love those 3-windows. What a beauty!
Browniepetersen
12-22-2007, 08:19 AM
Had one decades back, not that nice, wish it was still mine--oh well?
Park W
12-22-2007, 09:26 AM
Back in '55 I bought a used but good McCullough supercharger for my Hornet-powered 47 S6 brougham. After casing the job, I concluded it was going to be pretty tough to find a suitable carb or make a "pressure box" to enclose the standard carb. Upon finding an Edmunds head and triple intake manifold, I decided to go with that instead, and sold the blower. While the engine looked cool with the Edmunds equipment, I've always wondered how it would have been with the McCullough instead. (By the way, Glen Johnson in UT has that very same triple intake manifold today ... not just one like it, but the same one!)
glens46golden
12-22-2007, 04:38 PM
Here is a photo of my triple intake manifold. It was my intent to use this on a 308 in my 37 Terraplane pickup. However, everyone informed me that the Terraplane had too short of a front end and too much weight would hang over the front axle making it hard to steer. So...I didn't go with a 308 and I'm still looking for something deserving to use the triple intake manifold. Along this line, I've tried to encourage Brownie Petersen to put a 308 with Twin-H in his 39 roadster, which he is very reluctant to do. Maybe if I offer to sell him my triple intake manifold, this might convince him to go with a 308! What'd you say Brownie?
htrdhudson
12-23-2007, 10:10 AM
id sure hope for a little more than 104hp at the rear wheels after all the work, time and cash involved in that one. i know of another interesting one, ill have to find the link.
htrdhudson
12-23-2007, 10:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opJilgQDZyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HirKCzrd_ic&feature=related
i find this one to be a little more interesting
50C8DAN
12-23-2007, 12:09 PM
You need to remember that the dyno is measuring wheel horsepower, not flywheel horsepower. There can be quite a bit of loss between the flywheel and rear wheels!
Ol racer
12-23-2007, 12:16 PM
FYI
Very Nice Car with a very innovative Set-Up... This could be done on a Hudson 4bbl Intake by using a 'Blow Through' Holley Carb.
I bet this car will attract a lot more attention at a Cruise-In's than if installed a moden V8....
46HudsonPU
12-23-2007, 06:55 PM
A 232 or 262 (or possibly a 308) with Clifford dual-exhaust headers & intake - Couple that with electronic ignition, EFI, and a Paxton supercharger = one neat setup...
Browniepetersen
12-24-2007, 09:13 AM
My good friend--It is simply a point of finance? I have the complete Corvette engine sitting in the shop looking for a project. It was from a 1961 Vet that had a non-production Edlebrock tripple carb system, complete with all the linkage, that Chevrolet did not contract to buy. I am not adverse to a 308 Twin-H, or in this case tripple-H. Also, the small block V-8 would fit with room to spare and parts are available at any parts store or Chevrolet dealer. The 308 would require some creative/major modifications including reworking the fire wall, tranny and finding a compatable rear end; and, I would need to carry a trunk load of parts for driving long distances on the road. By the way, the 39 does not have a trunk. All the body panels are welded togeather. So, as you can see. I am not adverse to a 308 (I may be a bit stuborn because when Glen met me I was a serious Chevrolet nut--still serve in a few national offices with the VCCA) it just seems the problems are more than I am willing to consider. I also figure that by using the 327/300hp engine, I save about $4K and have nothing to buy? As a side note, I hate lifting up my hood at car shows/cruize in's, and displays--it destroys the great body lines of the cars. I normally park my step down next to a few others and let them lift their hoods. I have to say Glen, if a 308 with your tri-power were sitting side by side in the shop--it would still be a tough decision. Too many decisions, not enough time and simply economics...Right, wrong or indifferent--thats my story and I am sticking to it... By the way Glen, that set up would look great on the Essex Roadster....
`Hudsonator
12-24-2007, 09:41 AM
If economics and time were on my side, I'd already have a blown through McCulloch supercharger huffing down my 308.
Its a pity the few parts I need to finish it are such a problem monetarily. I'll eventually get there - somehow.
That Packard is nothing short of super-iceberg cool. Not enough adjectives to describe how much I love that setup. Nothing sets me on fire like an updated, very well done, vintage engine.
Thanks for the link to this remarkable car.
Mark
super651
12-24-2007, 10:59 AM
Mark, That Paxton you have will out do the Packard all around.
Keep on A-Puffing and you will get it done.
after all IF IT IS NOT BLOWN it SUCKS.
That is on the rear of TURBO-CASPER.
Hudsonly to you and to ALL. Rudy
htrdhudson
12-24-2007, 03:39 PM
hay hudsonator, are you the guy with the hudson motors on the hamb? the triple webber setup... and the blown one... and the one with the 4brl?
Ol racer
12-24-2007, 07:15 PM
I have a Holley 4bbl Hornet Motor with a modern small Eaton supercharger. I did it just to see if it could be done...It was a lot of Fab'ing but worth it just from spectator comments. For hi-performance I would suggest a larger blower either 90 or 110. I would have liked a 'blow thru' carb Paxton set-up but couldnt locate one in decent price range.
`Hudsonator
12-24-2007, 11:32 PM
hay hudsonator, are you the guy with the hudson motors on the hamb? the triple webber setup... and the blown one... and the one with the 4brl?
Yep, that would be me.
Better pictures are here on Classicar's picture gallery. I have an account here, which is where the HAMB pictures came from.
I mocked up the triple weber on a short hooded (Wasp or Pacemaker) engine for fitment. Better fitment than the long hooded cars actually. Those pictures are here as well.
I'm in love with the VS57 McCulloch, thanks to Mr Casper-the-Friendly-Forced Induction-Texan (Rudy, thanks a million!).
I'm not very far away from having the 308 Supercharged with Rudy's Kaiser/McCulloch outfit. In the meantime, I've had it mocked up on every Hudson engine I have out - including the triple weber outfit. I figured out a few things along the way, so hopefully when I do get it installed I'll have some demons vanquished before they hex me.
I may Supercharge the stroked, weberized 354 CID Hudson as well. I laid out a plan to blow through those as well. Using a slant six mopar Offenhauser valve cover as a pressure box. Problem is, that won't fit in a stepdown compartment.
If I used the Clifford weber manifold as the throttle body assembly, with DFI, then it would fit (you would elminate about 7" of Weber carburetor). Electronic direct port injection, electronic timing controls, variable sheave McCulloch, 354 CID of Hudson. It's possible, but I haven't won the lottery yet!
This Packard situation, is inspiring.
Mark
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