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Ol racer

FYI

Butch Smith ask me to Post a few pictures of the nice repairs Guy Spring performed on his '46 Cpe Door; (Guy is Dany Spring's brother)

Butch had searched to no avail for18 months for a better door for his supercharged Hornet Project I am lucky to also have a bodyman nearby capable of similar workmanship.

mrsbojigger

Nice Work!

RL Chilton

That's some great work, Guy!

bent metal

Thanks for the compliments. That was a tricky little job. Some one brings you a door, no car. How do you cut off the bottom (which is five panels deep), make new panels, weld it all back together and have it reasonably line up where it was before? All I could think to do was make a table type jig where I could still remove and flip the door over and put it back in a repeatable position. Then have bucks that I could position around the bottom of the door to get all of the radii and curves right. It was challenging for me.

By the way, how do you like the table?

bent metal

more pics to see.

bent metal

Hey, I actually remembered to take pictures this time.

Maybe too many.

The inner structure is odd shaped. I primed all of the places that got welded shut or that would be hard for the painter to get to before I welded them on.

bent metal

Where I have the two doors side by side they aren't the same. Close, but not the same. The old door is a two door sedan that Mr. Smith brought for me to maybe use some parts off of. I ended up making all new but it was nice to have as a reference. The drain holes and some other little things are different, not to mention the over all size. ...And that's about it, hope you find the pictures interesting.

51hornetA

Bent you are my metal working hero. Have you thought about vacationing in Canada in my garage to help me work on my cars. All the beer and bacon you can handle LOL

VicTor Z

Hello Bent, I do like your table! Where did you buy the table? See you at Yosemite???

RL Chilton

The hell with the table . . . I want a door like that!! LOL!

Just kidding, table top looks good, looks like it might need some nicer legs to match the top.

Browniepetersen

Great work! I have seen your work before so I expected as much but I have to say you have a true art...

Ol racer

FYI

The Table is a beautie too... looks like engine turned metal (unsure the correct name) similar to some custom dashes I have seen. Good Work!

I dont toss out rusted doors or fenders anymore knowing there are still a 'few' true craftsmen around, and not just parts changers...

bent metal

Thank you gentlemen, you are too kind.

This was more of a restoration then a "street rod" type job. I wonder if the moderator could move this thread to the "Hudson" section? Maybe more people would see it,.....I need the work.

Ray

bent metal wrote:

Thank you gentlemen, you are too kind.

This was more of a restoration then a "street rod" type job. I wonder if the moderator could move this thread to the "Hudson" section? Maybe more people would see it,.....I need the work.

Wow, outstanding skill, talent and a lot of hard work...

Ray

RL Chilton

BM-

Have to ask: How did you bend the curves in the panel? Do you have a really long set of slip-rollers or did you bend it by hand? Also, isn't there a crown on those panels (front of car to rear of car)? How did you get that back into the panel?

bent metal

I think your talking about the flared piece that attatches to the outside of the door. It's curved long ways to flow with the body, yes. The way you have to make that piece is you have to stretch the outside of the panel. Make the metal thinner on the outside than the metal in the center. It's a 'reverse curve'. Like the rockers on the two door sedan (suicide solution). It was made on an english wheel and the little off set where the trim will go was done on the Pullmax.

WildWasp

Bent Metal...

With the skills you obviously possess, you should be a great asset for a high end auto restoration house. I suspect that Ivan Z would be able to pass your name to some who are able to keep you employed. Even with the economy being in the dumper... your abilties are rare and the attention to detail is what seperates the Wanna Bees from the real craftspersons. If I possessed your skills, and I do not: I would be knocking at the doors of the best restoration shops as a contract sheet metal parts supplier.

Good Luck and thanks for sharing this amazing abiliy with us.

roy chapin

bent metal wrote:

Thank you gentlemen, you are too kind.

This was more of a restoration then a "street rod" type job. I wonder if the moderator could move this thread to the "Hudson" section? Maybe more people would see it,.....I need the work.

I agree! I would like to see this on the Hudson side of the forum. Very interesting work.

I don't understand what a "reverse curve" is.

I like the way you completely remake the individual panels. Not just patch the existing panels. It looks like how I would expect Hudson would have done it.

hdsn49

All I can say is WOW. Your one very talented individual. I'm glad your a Hudson guy.

rambos_ride

Although there might be a Hudson Hot-Rod in the background

I've moved this post to the main forum per request.

RL Chilton

rambos_ride wrote:

Although there might be a Hudson Hot-Rod in the background

I've moved this post to the main forum per request.

Dan-

Are you an administrator now?

Billy K.TN.

How about moveing it back where it was. There I would click on it and get the first unread message. Here I have to wait for all of it to download.

rambos_ride

RL Chilton wrote:

Dan-

Are you an administrator now?

Un-offical moderator is more like it :o I just try to help out from time to time with the forum.

How about moveing it back where it was. There I would click on it and get the first unread message. Here I have to wait for all of it to download.

Billy - I don't see the difference in behavior between the main-hot-rod forum on how the thread page loads...what browser/operating system are you using? (I tried only IE, WIN2k, XP)

Ron P

My Vista works the same in both places.

mdwhit

Billy K.TN. wrote:

How about moveing it back where it was. There I would click on it and get the first unread message. Here I have to wait for all of it to download.

My IE Browser 8 (and 7 before that) work the same way.

rpmonroe

Incredible work Bent Metal

I do the metal thing too but I'm truly humbled

WOW!

Take the advice of one of the other posters and hit the top-tier Resto shops and show'm what you got that they ain't got.

bent metal

Billy K.TN. wrote:

How about moveing it back where it was. There I would click on it and get the first unread message. Here I have to wait for all of it to download.

I'm not sure, but I think that's a problem with the "display mode" that you are set on within this web site. Maybe on the street rod side you got it set to show newest to oldest and oldest to newest on the Hudson side??? Just trying to help. ...Dan/Rambo's ride should know the answer to this.

bent metal

Roy Chapin, a reverse curve is a shape in which the outside edges need to be stretched rather than shrunk. Most (90%) of automotive panels are a high or low crown and are shrunk on the edges or stretched in the middle. A reverse is opposite. This gives the panel a "potato chip" or "saddle" shape. Maybe I can draw it better than I can talk about it.

roy chapin

This is almost like magic to me. Especially at the level you are recreating these sheet metal parts. I would like to agree with "Hdsn49" and say that I'm glad there is someone out there that is making quality Hudson parts.

Thank you, and I hope the Hudson community keeps you busy.

Also thanks for the explanation of what a reverse curve is. Fascinating

Richard E.

Hey, when it comes to bending metal, Guy is your Guy! He sure did a beautiful job on my side-mount fender on my 36T. It looks like a factory original!!

tigermoth

this is fine and everything if you can't find a skilled bondo guy...LOL! nice work..it's art. regards, tom

roy chapin

I would like to see a 'tech' section on this forum. Similar to the 'discussion' or 'street rod' section that you have here. One place where threads such as this could be easily found. Perhaps others would write 'how-to's' of various Hudson component rebuilding procedures.

So much valuable Hudson knowledge and information gets buried here under new topics and conversation. I feel like we are all missing out on a great oportunity to learn from and refernce each others information.

ivanz62 · Bonneville Pacemaker, Buzz, and Ivan 10-22-08 forum_123935512546920.jpg

To all of you who are following this thread, I want to add my thoughts on Guy's work and to share some pics of the 52 Pacemaker Brougham that Buzz Stahl and I have been working on for Bonneville. We were looking for a Pacemaker Brougham that we thought would have the best aerodynamics as a stock bodied Hudson and this was the desert car that Al Saffrahn found for me. It had dents in every panel and a little rust here and there. And a short sedan door on the left and many mixed Hudson parts. We put together a full set of 52 Pacemaker trim with the help of many of the known cohorts in the club. Guy worked over each panel and did just what was asked in terms of not turning it into perfection, but a solid car to paint. Dents out, holes filled, door rust repaired, etc, etc.

I know many have acknowledged his skill at fabrication, but his ability to do the job according to the customer's standards (and budget) may be more rare. I take my hat off to a young man of skill who is a pleasure to deal with--not a prima donna. Before pic from Al's yard in Maricopa and after pics in Buzz's driveway in Escondido last fall.

I hope you will pass the word that there is a man out there who has much to offer.

Ivan Zaremba

bobdriveshudson

WOW, please send more closer pics. Looks good from here, what about the motor/drive train parts. Thanks, lookin good. Bob

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