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In this Discussion
- 66patrick66 September 2008
- j.powell12 September 2008
- Jon B September 2008
- Oldcar_Mechanic September 2008
- rambos_ride September 2008
- walpolla September 2008
first restoration
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Ok I know nothing about restoring a car. Me and My dad were supposed to restore it, He died. Then me and my Uncle were supposed to and he died. So now im sitting with a beautiful (every one else says junky) 1965 Dodge Dart GT. I want to restore it but I don't even know where to start it seems like such a big project. Ill name some of the obvious issues um please excuse if the terminology is off:
The latch mechanism for the engine hood is broken looking through the grill it appears that a spring is missing. So I cant get to the engine.
Rust everywhere but most of it is surface rust and not to deep.
The floor panels in the back seat are completely rusted through.
the rear windshield is busted.
Now front Passenger side. the wheel comes off completely I don't know how it happened it just did.
As far as I know the engine still works it worked fine a few months ago, granted the tire wasn't broken then either.
I really just need some direction where to start. What should I look for to see if its even worth repairing.
Any tips and advice are welcome Im going to post some pics tell me what you think ill post pics as requested -
Photos:
Profile of car
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/j_powell12/DSCF1073.jpg
Front of car
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/j_powell12/DSCF1074.jpg
Damaged Passenger wheel
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/j_powell12/DSCF1075.jpg
A Mojority of the rust is like this
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/j_powell12/DSCF1076.jpg
More rust
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/j_powell12/DSCF1077.jpg
rear window
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/j_powell12/DSCF1081.jpg -
My only recommendation to you would be to find a local club for these cars or one that is willing to help you and get involved to help.
A restoration of a car like this is a very big undertaking and not to be taken lightly. It takes a lot of automotive apptitude to accomplish and if you are saying that you know nothing about this type of work, you will need someone right there to help guide you.
Sorry, there is no easy answer.
Ron -
www.forabodiesonly.com is a great source for parts and advice for your Dart.
Other good sites:
www.mopowerstyle.com
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www.moparts.org[/URL]"The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
And whether pigs have wings..." -
Let me ask you something.
Is it that you like this year and make of car, or this specific car?
You have chosen a car whose deteriorated condition will require a lot out of you -- both in terms of time and money. And in terms of experience, which you do not have.
If this partic ular car has sentimental meaning for you (it was your grandfather's, or it was the car that you and your dad had chosen to restore) then by all means go ahead with it.
But if you chose this car because you like the styling or some other feature about that particular year, you should realize that you can get a much more presentable example of this car, for not a whole lot of money. One that doesn't have "rust issues", one that has all its glass, one which you can hop into and drive. You will still have a lot to do on it, but you can do this restoration a little at a time, while you drive and enjoy the car.
With the car you have now, you will not be able to do this. The car will sit and sit, while you save money to buy new glass, and tires, and materials with which to get it into presentable enough condition just to drive it.
So, if you want to fix this specific car up, go for it, but just be forewarned that this will probably take you a lot of months (or years) and thousands of dollars, to get it into decent (not award winning) shape.
But otherwise, I'd suggest you go to Hemmings.com and look under "Dodge" and see if you can't get a really nice version of this car for two or three thousand dollars that you can enjoy right now. (Here's a convertible version for $3,000: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/dodge/dart/688323.html ). For that same two or three thousand dollars, you won't even be done with the rust work on the car you now have. -
hmmm ....
if it were me,I would find a running and driving example of the same model and use the one you have as a "parts" car.
it looks a bit too far gone to attempt a first resto with.
regards,Rod:D -
Welcome to the Forum!
Rust repairs can be one of the more troubling aspects of a restoration because if you don't have the space/tools to accomplish the repairs the $$ can quiclkly add up.
What you want to do is take a screw driver or pick and crawl around the car a probe the rust areas - what you're looking to do is see how bad the rust is so PUSH and dig hard on the metal.
Then you can take stock of the overall condition of the sheet metal and whether it might warrant getting a clean "rust free" shell to use and then combine parts as needed to make a whole one.
I wish I had gone that route before getting so far on my 49 Hudson
Where are you located in the country?
Dan
