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Sight unseen 68 thunderbird
  • CycloneISU
    Posts: 8Hitchhiker
    Ok so today I got a call from my father saying that he found a 1968 Landau thunderbird with the 429 option. It has 71,000 original miles. The car is all original with the exception of spot lights on either side and some fake antennas on both front fenders. Just a little rust on the driver inter fender well and two little bubbles under the black vinyl top. So he told me complete unseen to me that if I wanted to buy it. I will get a hell of a deal at only 2500.00. Was this a good buy completely unseen? I hope to drive the three hours this weekend to take a look. What do you guys are gals think? Anything the thunderjet is notorious of problem wise?
  • Oldcar_MechanicOldcar_Mechanic
    Posts: 1,786Platinum Member
    I would never buy anything sight unseen, but, if you can't trust your own father, who can you trust.



    Enjoy the car

    Ron
  • FORD PARTS MAN
    Posts: 4Hitchhiker
    ONLY PART I CAN THINK OF IT MAY NEED IN THE ALUMINUM TIMING CHAIN COVER. GOES IN-BETWEEN THE WATER PUMP AND THE BLOCK. IF THE OWNER DID NOT CHANGE THE ANTI-FREEZE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS THE COOLANT WOULD WEAR AWAY THE INNER PASSAGES OF THE COVER. LIKE WATER DID FOR THE GRAND CANYON. CHECK FOR WATER ON THE ENGINES DIP STICK. IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FOR THE CAR I WOULD TRY LARRY'S THUNDERBIRD & MUSTANG PARTS. I KNOW THEY CARRY PARTS FOR OLDER BIRDS. NOT SURE IF THEY DO FOR YOUR YEAR. www.larrystbird.com.
  • CycloneISU
    Posts: 8Hitchhiker
    I got a picture finally. I still haven't seen it in person , but if it looks like the picture I’m feeling pretty good. I’ll check out the timing chain cover. Thank you for the help, and I’ll keep everyone posted.



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  • Oldcar_MechanicOldcar_Mechanic
    Posts: 1,786Platinum Member
    Nice looking car



    Ron
  • Posts: 0
    Couple of things to remember with these cars.



    The 67-69 (really the 70 and 71 share the same chassis) have not held the same value that the 58-66 Thunderbirds have. A good condition 66 is probably worth three to five thousand more than a similarly conditioned 68. This may change but for right now the newer birds just didn't share the same level of infatuation the older ones did.



    Part of this is due to the fact that in 1967 Ford went with a Body on Frame approach as opposed to the unibody style of the 58-66 birds. The newer birds were fine road cars but much less personal luxury cars than the earlier 2 door Thunderbirds. This alone is partially what makes the cars less valuable.



    The reason I say this is because although the 68 looks like it may be a decent car from the outside you may find some serious issues once you get it home and short of going over the car yourself with a fine tooth comb you may find that 2500 completely wasted. I know several folks with 67-69 birds that have had electrical problems with them (like most older cars) and have found that the cost to repair the problem fully is almost as much as the car is worth. 429s are good engines but aren't that cheap to rebuild. The older 390s are getting up there as well but aren't quite as expensive. Part of this is because the 390 was more prevelant than the 429 although the 460 does have some crossover.



    I highly, and I mean highly recommend you not buy any car like this without looking at it closely. Go through it very closely and make sure there is no frame rust, no serious electical problems, make sure that the car hasn't had any frame damage from accidents and make sure that the car is exactly as advertised. Bondo and paint and a fuzzy photo can make any car look a lot better than they are.
  • CycloneISU
    Posts: 8Hitchhiker
    I have an update on the car. I did purchase the car and I’m in the process of going through it as we speak. I’m very happy with the paint and shape of the body of the car. A few things a must fix. the spotlights are gone and will be fixing the holes along with two fake antennas that were on the front fenders. They were ungodly ugly. They might of looked ok on the rear quarter fenders but the front looked horrible.



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    Interior needs a good cleaning as well as mice made it in to the car for a little while so I need to remove seats and clean the carpet as well. There is a small hole in the headliner on the passenger rear side. Not to bad but will be having someone look at it to patch it.



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    Engine once again not in the best cosmetic shape, but runs good and will be replacing belts and hoses. Along with the normal turn-up parts: plugs, wires, ect… The car will be a driver car no shows for me just touring the US with my son and folks. O yea I forgot to say it has working AC that just blows my mind.



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    How close is the NADA price to real value? They seem high but you never know.





    PRICING



    Original MSRP: $4,924

    Low Retail

    Average Retail Value

    High Retail



    Base Price $4,650 $9,100 $15,900

    Options

    429/360 HP V8 Engine 60% 60% 60%

    Air Conditioning 15% 15% 15%

    TOTAL PRICE $8,138 $15,925 $27,825
  • Oldcar_MechanicOldcar_Mechanic
    Posts: 1,786Platinum Member
    I still think you got a heck of a good deal. From the looks of the pictures, you have done well.



    Best of luck with the car and your touring.



    Ron
  • richard quarrel
    Posts: 5Hitchhiker
    I think that was a fair enough deal. Although I have to agree with wklink below, this T-bird's value isn't going to appreciate that much even if you restore it fully.



    Still, a T-bird's a T-bird. Congratulations to your newly acquired car, and good luck!