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http://www.oliverscars.com/home.html

James P.

7XPacemaker wrote:

http://www.oliverscars.com/home.html

Do you know where this place is located?

66patrick66

It's either in eastern Oklahoma or western Arkansas. My understanding is that it's an all-or-nothing sale.

There is a contact e-mail address - ask them!

LanceB

Wow, quite an inventory!

mdh157

i saw a lic plate that said oklahoma

Dave53-7C

No, no, it's between Shelbyville and Springfield, just north of Pixley and Mt. Pilot.

Try this:

http://whois.domaintools.com/oliverscars.com

dermott

lordy, lordy !! best i have ever seen. went to the gallery and that slide show had how many ??? pics. where is this place, thought it was only in my dreams. lol. dermott:D:D:D

37 Terraplane#2 · 37 Terraplane#2 February 2008 Posts: 1,659Platinum Member

Dave53-7C wrote:

No, no, it's between Shelbyville and Springfield, just north of Pixley and Mt. Pilot. Try this:

http://whois.domaintools.com/oliverscars.com

Fantastic,hard to have found that many in one place BACK IN THE DAY

What about this --the domain shows to have been created ---2006-08-07 ??

Dave53-7C

37 Terraplane#2 wrote:

Fantastic,hard to have found that many in one place BACK IN THE DAY
What about this --the domain shows to have been created ---2006-08-07 ??

I don't know how helpful it is, but at least it gives some background.

Created in 2006-August-07 I presume.

I remember seeing the Oliverscars site at least one year ago.

mars55

I found two of the Hudsons, but could not find the rest.

This looks like a '42, but I have been know to be wrong.

Here is a '48-'49 Super coupe.

66patrick66

Dave53-7C wrote:

No, no, it's between Shelbyville and Springfield, just north of Pixley and Mt. Pilot. Try this:

http://whois.domaintools.com/oliverscars.com

All that says is he is using a server in Ontario.

Dave53-7C

Who's from California.

54hudson

ever seen a grown man cry?:eek:

hoosiercrosley

I wish I could see it! My gosh it would take a couple of days just to check it out! I know one thing... somebody there sure hates glass!

Barry Smedley

53' Super Jet

A bunch of Crosley's

dermott

man, there a lot of topless.. sedans and coupes running around somewhere, lol. i understand covering the top after the inserts rot out, but where did the rest of the car go ?? into piles of parts no less in all those bins and piles of hoods and fenders. one pic i looked at, shot down from about 10 feet. he was standing on top of a pile of hoods and fenders, theres a green coupe? in the middle with stuff piled on it. looked to be saved some what by its hiding place. too much,. did notice a gst # painted on a wall, thats a tax number up here. mayby it was close, i e-mail and no responce. did not see the date till later. lol. dermott.

LanceB

Dave53-7C, I think it was Ontario Canada. I'm out here in So Cal and BillA is also. I think he would have heard about that place.

Hoosiercrosley, I noticed that also about the glass!

66patrick66

Ontario, CANADA.

Dave53-7C

Let me clarify things for you. The site owner is registered as being in California.

37 Terraplane#2 · 37 Terraplane#2 February 2008 Posts: 1,659Platinum Member

Gonna pose a thought/guess--When you bring up the site at the top it says --Stuarts Gallerys-- and you can buy prints for 15 cents each--just someone trying to sell pics and hard telling how old they really are or where they originated. Maney yrs ago I remember a truck stop somewhere in Mo I think or along that route headed west where everything in the emiediate area was SOUTH FORTY"S something or other. A number of diff bussinesses all apperantly owned by the same people. All of it pretty run down even then . Somehat of a rural area. If I remember correctly the trees/ vegitation,/ soil etc. was much like in the pics. All of it long gone. Anyone recognise the vegitation in the pics ? BUD

66patrick66

Nothing to clarify, Dave...the site SERVER is shown as an Ontario, CANADA location. Just clarifying for ya...

Dave53-7C

So what's your point? The server is in Canada, the cars in Oklahoma and the seller, Stuart Pionteck, is in California. land and cars supposedly sold as of 11/07.

51hornetA

Actually the SERVER is not shown to be in Toronto the DOMAIN record is shown to be on the server in Toronto. Further the server shown is Network Solution Inc's server as you know they are the domain registrar. So if you are clarifying that Network Solutions has a server in Toronto you are correct. If you are clarifying that Olive Cars have a server in Toronto you are incorrect. Info shown states the registered owner of the DOMAIN is in California the domain record in this case is shown on the Toronto server. The actual server could be anywhere in Canada, USA or the world.

I would then say what does this have to do with Junk yards. I look at the pics and say where is the snow LOL I live in Canada where is the snow.....we only have summer for one day of the year so they must have taken the pics quickly.

akcoop

Whoa! can we get a cease and desist on the geek speak! This is an old car site! For talking 'bout old cars. You can find plenty of other sites out there that cater to yur kind.

51hornetA

I know I know I hate myself for posting that geek talk....forgive me to much time in server rooms as dulled my senses.

37 Terraplane#2 · 37 Terraplane#2 February 2008 Posts: 1,659Platinum Member

Anyway we've all enjoyed the post, the pics and all, keeps us dreaming of the day we'll run accross an unkown. I'd bet my lunch money it was the old South Forty I referred to as that is a route I often traveled and even back then it had the looks of being headed for "out of business" . Maybe somebody will run accross a new old one for us to drool over. Thanks for the post, BUD

66patrick66

The point is - has ANYONE emailed these people to find out where, EXACTLY (city, we've pretty much figured they are likely in OK) the CARS are??? Personally, I don't give a shiite about where the other crap is, where are the damn CARS???

Dave53-7C

Now, now, let's not get our undies in a bundle over this.

Harry Hill

I know of a yard like that in Fontana if it is still there. The owner was from LA, a postman I think he told me who bought up cars and transported them to Fontana. I used to stop and try to talk him out of a car but he wouldn't part with anything, planned on restoring them all when he retired. I haven't been by there in quite a while so I'm not sure he is still there.

Harry

Dave53-7C

Harry,

What sort of cars did this guy have? If there were any Hudsons, I bet they've relocated to a different location in Fontana.

On one hand, some people say that these guys shouldn't hord cars and let them sit. However, the flip side is that many of the cars they've collected might not be here without them.

Harry Hill

Dave;

that guy had cars from every year I could think of but I have no idea if there were any Hudsons in the mix. I would guess most of the cars were from the 50's and 60's but it was like every car he found on his route for sale he bought and hauled out to Fontana. He was putting up security fencing the last time I saw his place as it was along the tracks and lots of people jumped his fence to look at the cars or steal parts off them. I need to go look and see if he is still there.Maybe the next time I go down and see Bill.

Harry

Dave53-7C

Harry,

You'll have to admit, it's an interesting way to fund one's retirement. If he's still there, it sounds like he needs to increase security or move to an area less traveled. With all the local and EPA regulations, it would be nearly impossible for one man to run that collection as a public wrecking yard. I would think that keeping things private makes buying cars and parting them out more feasible. So, are California wrecking yards all they're cracked-up to be? In the Midwest, cars in our yards are usually rust buckets, but mechanical and interior parts survive fairly well. I guess it must be the opposite there.

Harry Hill

Dave, mostly just surface rust if the car is from the inland areas, the beach areas can be hard on cars. I used to haunt junk yards all the time but there aren't so many in Yucaipa. I have a few friends though that hit them all the time in the valley.

Harry

dermott

hey, all you junk yard doggz, like me. 3 days no reply to e-mail, i got the bug reading rod&custom in the 60,s . i was the only kid in grades 6,7,8. and talking 1967,- 1970, that had a subscription delivered and soon as i got my hands on it i went to back pages to vintage tin section. cars sittin by the road! theres gold in them there hills it would print, how true 38 years later. look at the prices free-1968 vs. 1 million 2008. wish i was smarter then than i think i am now. lol . dermott.:cool:

oldhudsons

there are a LOT of old cars sitting around Calif. in the Central Valley esp. in the Fresno, Bakersfield general areas. There used to be several HUGE junkyards in Fresno, right beside Rte. 99, one specializing in older cars - not sure if they're still there, but if you go out into the countryside (small towns), a lot of "old iron" still there.

Dave53-7C

I think I'm going to copy those guys you see on TV travel shows that take groups of people on tour. While they're off touring Europe, my group will be touring wrecking yards out west. LOL

SamJ

Hudsons in this yard...

SamJ

And another...Oklahoma?

Rarerodder

Yes, that is a 1942 Commodore Eight 2-door sedan and yes, I want that car. Can somebody find it for me please?!?

hudsonkid

hudsondad has a few junkyard videos we shot in the early 90's. If he ever gets me copies on DVD, I will configure them to post them on youtube, or something. I think you all would like them.

bill a

Harry, Crazy Bobs Cars Along The Tracks Are All Gone, The City Made Him Clean Them Out. He Is In A Rest Home With Alzheimeres And Dssnt Even Know What An Old Caris Now. Moral Of The Story Restore One And Sell The Rest To Finance One, Enjoy It Before You Check Out, I Do 3 Or 4 A Year And Checkout Time Is Getting Closer, Bill Albright

Harry Hill

Bill;

kind of sad but I agree with restoring them and not hoarding them. It always seemed a waste to me that he was sitting on all those cars and never doing anything with them. Do you have any door glass for a 55 Hash? I would like to find some OEM glass instead of just replacements. I have one good door glass so I need three.

Harry

bigboy308

There's a fellow VERY NEAR me that has a "collection" somewhat like this--Many 1940's, some fifties, lots of VW K-G's, couple of Porsches. He drives a Lincoln Mark III around here. He won't even consider selling a part, much less a complete car.

He has two Hudson p/u's that I would like to get hold of, I can't even get him to answer a phone call or a letter!! Apparently he is well-known in the area for these cars, but everyone has same story---NO SALE.

Best time to see the cars is in the winter---most of the berry bushes, weeds, and trees are pretty barren, cars can be seen from the road. I did get into the yard once, couldn't take any pix, but would have loved to take four or five of the rarest home!! (Hud p/u, 1939 Dodge cpe, '58 Porsche Cp, '41 Buick Cvt, '40 Ford Delux Cp, still with a full-race (Four 97's intake!) flat motor under the hood!

They're still out there, even in Car-Crazy CA!!!

P.S. He also has a barn full of motorcycles---No way I was allowed to see them, but he did have an original H-D Panhead with a factory sidecar sitting under a tarp alongside the barn.

mdh157

I agree with Bill and Harry - I can probably write a book about all the times i've knocked on doors only to be told the cars are not for sale (in many cases that they were going to be fixed up soon). Well, some of those places are untouched 15 years later, and now the carts are rusted beyond repair and they can't give them away. I know of two places where there are rare big body late 60's 4-speed amcs that are just wasting away......meanwhile, one of the guys complains about money and has 10-15K in sellable cars sitting on his property but refuses to part with them. I'll bet his kids/grandkids will have no problem getting the cash for them within a short time of his paassing.....

Mark

BJ__TN

I once saw a 53 Hudson rear sticking out from some trees. Then I noticed there were 25-30 other cars in the trees also. I found out who owned the cars and tried to talk to him but NO, He would not even talk to me. A couple of years later his wife was having a yard sale before Christmas so the wife and I stopped. While she was looking I noticed the guy in the garage and walked over and said " I see you've got a Hudson out in the trees" He said " Yeah, and I'll tell you right now that all the cars belong to me and are NOT FOR SALE. If it wasn't for my wife having the sale I would have told you to get the hell off my property." I told him I was sorry to have bothered him and got my wife and left.
Couple of years later and someone told me they thought he had died. I went back by his place and the cars were gone. I knocked on the door and his wife answered and after an introduction and a short chat she told me that she had had all those old cars crushed to clean up the woods so that she could sell the property.
All she could remember of the cars was that there was a Hudson, a Packard, a Chrysler 300 and a couple of Mustangs, one of which must have been a cheap model because it had PONY on the interior I don't know much about Mustangs, but I do know that the Pony interior is desirable, within 6 months of his death, ALL the cars were crushed....She confirmed 28 cars. Guys, this was NOT a junkyard, just a cantankerous old man that wouldn't sell a car. Mainly just because he did not want anybody else to have it.

Bob

Dave53-7C

Bob,

I guess the lesson to be learned is to talk to the guy's wife the next time you run into something like this. After all, they're always ready to get rid of our 'junk." Sad that this guy's wife didn't know the value of that junk.

I think you've hit on the reason why these guys don't let go of the cars. They have something you don't and you're not going to get it. Sounds like a small child that is stuck in the 'mine' phase.

Dave

dermott

[url]www.carsinbarns.com:)

:[/url]) dermott. :eek: have fun looking here, any hudsons i did not spot yet, check dates, some older pic and stories. enjoy!.

Maverickhudson

The GST on the wall was actually GSTU which is a Genstar Container Corporation shipping container. I tried looking up the humber of the container to see its last location but was unable to pull that up from home. I am sure that the area is not anywhere in Canada, not too many bootleggers running cars around up there. The buildings and the town you can see look like Guthrie Oklahoma

66patrick66

With the HUGE wildfires that were in Guthrie and the surrounding areas in '04 and '05, I seriously doubt it's Guthrie - I live but 20 miles from there. If that yard were THAT close to Oklahoma City, people here would know it.

Might look like Guthrie, but I'd bet $$$ it isn't.

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