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Recoverable or Unrecoverable This is the question
  • servat_hudsonservat_hudson
    Posts: 56Senior Contributor
    Hey guys!

    Some time ago I opened a thread that talked about my wishes for the 1949 Hudson commodore .. by the type of car and how important it was here in Spain .....

    now that last weekend, I change my store for my car's ... I decided to clean all the crap inside ... and do some photos for my colleagues asking for opinions and also in hier unquestionably experts on this board!

    I am very disappointed by the state of the plate ... some collagues warned me and I acted in a very deluded ... impossible to rely on it.

    let my pictures here for we to tell me if it is recoverable ... (again) to try to have a little more than illusion.

    And I wanted to ask if we think I could find a Hudson Commodore (very important 1949) in USA at a good price They were exposed to either chassis, engine, transmission, and be in proper working order ... for import into Spain, and switch roles. The Commodore '49 could cost me in USA ?? anyone have any idea ¿?

    Thank you very much in advance friends!
    Bye!

    PD: I will apologize for my English translation.


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    1949 Hudson Commodore
    1969 Seat 850 Especial
    1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme
    1979 Buick Skyhawk
    1985 Pontiac Fiero

    Don't Worry... Be Happy!!
  • Park_WPark_W
    Posts: 2,052Platinum Member
    It's pretty clear to me that you would be much better served if you got a good car from the US. That Commodore you have is very badly rusted, and more important, it does not have an original Hudson engine or transmission. I think you could find a good car here and have it shipped to Espana for less than it would cost to fix that rusty one.
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,042Platinum Member
    What Park W said.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,768Moderator
    Servat,

    I think you are saying that your Hudson is too badly rusted to restore (¿el coche está demasiado oxidado restaurar?).

    You desire to know if we agree? (¿usted deseo a sabe si convenimos con usted?)

    Tristemente, la respuesta es, sí. Usted podría restaurar el coche, pero requeriría demasiado dinero.

    Si usted compra un coche en buenas condiciones, pueden costarle más dinero que comprar un coche oxidado. Pero usted puede restaurar el coche y conducirlo, al mismo tiempo. Reconstruyendo el metal aherrumbrado, es muy costoso. Así pues, usted ahorrará el dinero si usted compra un coche con un buen cuerpo.

    Le costará $1500 - $3.000 para enviar un coche de América. ¡Usted puede encontrar un negocio aquí en los E.E.U.U.! Recientemente, un Hudson 1949 en condiciones originales muy buenas fue vendido para $6,500US en el estado de Maryland. (véase las fotografías) Así pues, usted podría comprar el coche y tenerlo enviado, para $8,000US - $9500US.


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    (Car recently for sale for "$6,500 or best offer" in Maryland

    O, usted puede tener suerte. ¡Posiblemente usted encontrará otro Hudson más cercano a usted, y usted ahorrará los costos del envío!
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  • Marconi
    Posts: 549Platinum Member
    HUH, Wha'yd he say?????????????????
  • sshftnsshftn
    Posts: 46Hitchhiker
    Let me try my hand at translating:

    Sadly, the answer is yes. You will be able to restore the car, but it will require too much money.

    If you buy a car in good condition, it will cost you more than buying a rusted car. But you can restore it and drive it at the same time. Repairing the damaged metal is very costly. Thus, you will save money if you buy a car with a good body.

    It costs $1500-$3000 to send a car from America. Recently, a 1949 Hudson in very good original condition sold for $6500 in Maryland(see photos). Thus, you could buy the car and ship it for $8000-$9500.

    Or, you might get lucky. Possible you might find a Hudson closer to you and avoid the shipping charges.

    Soooo, basically the same thing everybody else said! :)

    jeremiah
    Jeremiah
    1936 Hudson 8
  • cargray
    Posts: 178Expert Adviser
    Sorry but that one is HISTORY...Reminds me of the 57 Plymouth they had intombed in Tulsa...Just cant do much with that much RUST
  • servat_hudsonservat_hudson
    Posts: 56Senior Contributor
    Hello, good afternoon guys!

    This past weekend I have been removing more and more pieces or spoiled rotten ....

    I noticed that right in the front doors .... the body has not borne the burden and has fallen ... so now the front doors do not close properly ... they will continue removing .... and restoring some pieces to keep for prosperity.

    And I am considering buying a 1949 Hudson Commodore of the 'original in perfect condition in USA. I will have a budget of $ 13,000 or $ 15.000 but I am afraid I have to buy a commodore chassis rusted ... so do not know if I can buy with this money a good piece preserved in time or a car restored.

    I have a dilemma and a little scary now that I've seen a broken Body.

    I want to thank everyone for your advice and opinions valises.
    Jon B. Thanks for informing the market here and illustrate that it is possible to buy a commodore in good condition and cheaper to restore mine!

    I would like to add that my commodore has the veneer VIN Number: 49214171 but I do not see the VIN information so if someone could tell me where to look ....

    Thank you all!
    1949 Hudson Commodore
    1969 Seat 850 Especial
    1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme
    1979 Buick Skyhawk
    1985 Pontiac Fiero

    Don't Worry... Be Happy!!
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    Servat-

    I hope this is what you are asking, but the first three #'s of the VIN is 492. That denotes a Commodore 6.
  • servat_hudsonservat_hudson
    Posts: 56Senior Contributor
    Hello all Guys!!!
    I'm now in hier! I have som images.... and I put in hier and I wonder if there is any precedent for any Commodore with this state....
    Hard Day's comming... Have a Happy new year guys!!!!!
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    1949 Hudson Commodore
    1969 Seat 850 Especial
    1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme
    1979 Buick Skyhawk
    1985 Pontiac Fiero

    Don't Worry... Be Happy!!
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,042Platinum Member
    I know of a couple that were worse than that - and were brought back. One was a 1941 Commodore 8 convertible - it was so bad it was hard to tell what it was.
    The other is Russell Chiltons 1952 Hornet convertible that was about the same as the '41 covert - that also is pretty close to being on the road. Russell has a blog, but I don't have the URL for it - he may be on here later and post that info.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • oldhudsonsoldhudsons
    Posts: 1,728Platinum Member
    492 may denote it being a '49 Comm. 6 but the engine isn't a Hudson engine, and with all that rust!?!!?!?!
  • Uncle JoshUncle Josh
    Posts: 1,860Platinum Member
    Well, my rule of thumb is..'Does it cast a shadow'. I think your shadow is full of holes. Looks like the rust may be the only thing holding much of it together.

    by the time you get that one drivable you'll be an old man.

    I agree with the consensus. Buy a good one from US.
  • Hudsonrules
    Posts: 398Platinum Member
    I have a '49 Super "6" sedan that I will sell reasonbly. It needs restoring and can be made into a commodore with a little work and trim. But I am on the west coast of the U.S. and would shil the car out of Long beach probably. Comment me if interested, I will send pictures. Thanks, Arnie in Nevada.
  • rambos_riderambos_ride
    Posts: 3,123Platinum Member
    Oh boy - tired of the color "rust" yet?

    I thought my 49 was borderline but went ahead with repairs anyway..your's is much worse, but not the worst I've seen - like the Jet Convertible!

    I do think if you're set on a Hudson you would be better off trying to find another thats solid and/or semi-restored.

    It's one thing your Hudson has got some historical or sentimental value, but otherwise I'd say you're throwing good money after a car that is always going to have rust problems as long as you own it.

    There are honorable people on this forum that can help locate a good car, I just have no idea what shipping costs would be.



  • commodorecollectorcommodorecollector
    Posts: 277Hitchhiker
    Sad to see a Hudson end up in that condition and like everyone has said, it would be a lot better off to find one in the US and ship it instead of spending too much time and money on that rusty relic. To help offset the costs of importing a Hudson from the US, you could part out what is left of that 49' Comm 6.
    I also looked up the rough shipping cost for shipping a car to Spain... it comes in at Approx $2850 in a 20 foot Private Container via Valencia from Long Beach California.
    Christopher
    Wyotech Sacramento Grad 2013
    - Collision and Refinishing
    -Applied Service Management

    Own:
    1954 Hudson Hornet Sedan //1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Sedan // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Sedan // 1941 Hudson Super 6 Sedan
    Wanted:
    1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Club Coupe // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Brougham // 1950 Hudson Super 6 Brougham
    All Stepdown Coupes and Broughams
    1937 Brougham, Victoria Coupe, Utility Coupe, and Sedan (all models acceptable)
    1936 Coupe
  • Ken U-Tx
    Posts: 1,102Platinum Member
    I shipped a 1957 Tatra T603 from Antwerp to Houston, Tx for $1400 in 1999. Need to shop around. Schumacher Cargo Logistics seems to have more collector car shipping experience. http://www.schumachercargo.com/
  • Hudsonrules
    Posts: 398Platinum Member
    Hi Jordi, Please send me an address in Spain and I will send pictures of my '49 Super "6" 4door sedan. I can not get any pictures on my computor now as there is something wrong with it. The Hudson does run and drive, has a working overdrive, minor rust in right front rocker, otherwise the body is in good shape. Looks okay but does need work, engine overhaul, interior minor body work and a door glass. I will let it go for $2850. It has a rebuilt fuel tank and recored radiator. Please get back with me. Thanks, Arnie in Nevada.
  • servat_hudsonservat_hudson
    Posts: 56Senior Contributor
    Hello All peoples!

    thank you very much for all your support and for the work and time they have devoted to finding a solution!

    I went back to spend time in the car and remove the entire back, more of the same ... not seem to see anything good in it! and when you work on cars so grab affection,

    I have done a few more photos of the state and the process .... I put them below!

    My e-mail is servat0633/@gmail/com (change bar per point) if you need my physical address is:


    if you can send photos or Any reference, information ... All are welcome! and I am grateful.

    oldhudsons: this engine is not the original! in 1965 changed the engine for a 17HP Diesel 4 Cylinder Barreiros typical in Spain .... (Shoddy) cut some inner frame to put a manual gearbox.

    Rambos: now understand why I need your photos for a little guide jejejjejej ... Great job you've done! I know!

    also thank you very much for the information of the transport company!
    I will look here when it costs des California, the port of Barcelona or Valencia harbor that I have that are the closest to me. both between 160 and 400 km from home ...

    I'm learning a lesson that I'm taking apart these days and I can only say one thing: Please! take care of their cars! do not let the Rust eat a cherished part of their lives! Someday it will be too late ....

    I have no more to wish everyone a happy new year! and will continue to try in the next 2013!
    Thank you all guys

    1949 Hudson Commodore
    1969 Seat 850 Especial
    1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme
    1979 Buick Skyhawk
    1985 Pontiac Fiero

    Don't Worry... Be Happy!!
  • servat_hudsonservat_hudson
    Posts: 56Senior Contributor
    Sorry if the site is very much in keeping with the car ... hahahaha formerly an ancient broiler and now serves very well as stock! jejjejej

    in the photos of the driver side front beam can be seen as a difference is down to the other side. so it gives me the impression that the chassis is very wrong!

    Bye Boys!
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    1949 Hudson Commodore
    1969 Seat 850 Especial
    1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme
    1979 Buick Skyhawk
    1985 Pontiac Fiero

    Don't Worry... Be Happy!!
  • rambos_riderambos_ride
    Posts: 3,123Platinum Member
    So - are you going to try and fix the Hudson you have?

  • commodorecollectorcommodorecollector
    Posts: 277Hitchhiker
    Servat,
    This 50' Hudson Commodore has just been recently put up on Ebay with NO Reserve. It is not mine but thought you might be interesting in acquiring it.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1950-Hudson-Commodore-/140901580949?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item20ce638095#ht_500wt_1182
    Chris
    Christopher
    Wyotech Sacramento Grad 2013
    - Collision and Refinishing
    -Applied Service Management

    Own:
    1954 Hudson Hornet Sedan //1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Sedan // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Sedan // 1941 Hudson Super 6 Sedan
    Wanted:
    1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Club Coupe // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Brougham // 1950 Hudson Super 6 Brougham
    All Stepdown Coupes and Broughams
    1937 Brougham, Victoria Coupe, Utility Coupe, and Sedan (all models acceptable)
    1936 Coupe
  • Hudsonrules
    Posts: 398Platinum Member
    That is a 1950 Pacemaker, pretty sad.
  • Terraplane33Terraplane33
    Posts: 233Gold Member
    Unfortunately, this car seems to much damaged to be restored. Even is you have lots of time and you are able to do the job, I believe it still does not worth it...
    Location : France
  • Ken U-Tx
    Posts: 1,102Platinum Member
    There are deals to be had out there. I set my friend onto a '53 Hornet that was mis-categorized as "advertising" on Ebay. Nobody else was looking at or bidding on it. Nice #3 car with decent paint, sunvisor, foglights, spotlight, twin H, backup lights, decent interior except for headliner (more on that in a bit), absolutely rock solid with no body or floor rust. It had been sitting for 5 years because of poor running, and then the fuel system and brake systems went south from sitting. The older owner had no ability or inclination to get it running and driving right. We got it for $7K. We spent the next few months in our free time going over it. after putting in a new oil pump gear, rebuilt distributor, rebuild the carbs, etc along with detailing the engine compartment, it runs great. We had also dropped the fuel tank to clean and seal it. Brakes had to be redone. The head liner had two small holes from mice, due to the long term storage in a metal building. We noticed a lingering smell in the car, so took it to an upholstery shop to be fitted with new headliner from ACME headliner. When they removed the headliner, they put on respirators, goggles and gloves , covered the seats with plastic and started to remove the headliner, it was heavy because it was FULL of dried Mouse Turds, two trash bags full, to be exact! Now the interior looks great and no smell. So after investing another $3K (not including labor, which you could do most yourself, if inclined) we had a decent presentable driver. This is a much better way to go about getting a classic project car than buying some junker that has been sitting outside in the weather for decades.