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- 1049superg November 2012
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Cordless Power Tools - Are they all made in China?!?
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Went 'window shopping' with a friend of mine at one of my favorite places on Sunday - Home Depot.
The subject came up about cordless power tools, and we went to the tool bin, to look thru it. We tried, but could not find anything in any 'line' of cordless tools that was made in the U.S. of A...
Everything we picked-up was made in China. :( :-q -
Thats not a big problem unless you plan on using it more than twice .. .. ..I got a super good deal on a 1/2" hammer drill once (China). You couldnt run it for more than thirty seconds and the bit came loose. You could tighten it all you wanted and it did the same thing each time.
I finaly threw it away, was'nt worth the postage to mail it back,
RogerRetired Tech. -
I 'think' Craftsman is still USA. Been a while since I checked tho.
And some stuff is sold at K-Marche and Ace Hardware also now, not just Sears.
Jeff -
Ha ha! Unless I only need something for a one-time project, I don't buy my tools from HarborFreight or similiar types of vendors. If you want quality (in just about anything) - look elsewhere. Granted, I do 'shop' there, as there are some things that are 'good enough' for my needs - and significantly cheaper.
I don't believe that Sears make their own power tools - everything is 'branded', similiar to what they do in their 'Kenmore' line.
As far as most hardware or even general merchandise stores, they are all going 'generic', supplying to the masses. Dewalt is Dewalt, Bosch is Bosch, etc., no matter which store it is bought from - -
A lot of Craftsman tools are now made in China. I recently wanted to purchase a new set of drill bits at Ace Hardware and I couldn't find any made in the U.S.A. Even the Craftsman bits were made in China.
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When one of my old Craftsman tools breaks, I hate to go through the return process, because usually the replacement is inferior in quality than the original (before it broke). Case in point, ratchet type wrenches; my originals have no free movement between "clicks", the new ones from China, are really sloppy between clicks.
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Change the title of the thread a bit - more relevant to the conversation...
Am still looking for any power tool (cordless or otherwise) that says 'Made in USA'. Weird part (although I should expect it) is that most online stores do not indicate country of origin/manufacture - -
Are the Porter cable tools still made in the US
they have a huge range
Even have some all the way down here
Mike -
@essexcoupe3131 Porter Cable was the only label that was more than a bit confusing (which is why I didn't mention it above)... It stated at least three different components and parts, all made in different countries (Mexico and China stood out) - and from what I recall, indicated that it was 'packaged' in the U.S.A..
Funny that they do not indicate "Made in USA" - in detail on their website, if that were the case.
http://www.portercable.com/Default.aspx -
What happened to the GOOD OLD DAYS when we could get all our real quality stuff from JAPAN?
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@TOM-WA- Yup, even those typically thought of as Japanese made are being manufactured in China...
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Snap- On, Matco, Mac, and Cornwell just to name a few are made in the USA. Only downside of these tools is that they are expensive, but they will last.Christopher
Wyotech Sacramento Grad 2013
- Collision and Refinishing
-Applied Service Management
Own:
1954 Hudson Hornet Sedan //1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Sedan // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Sedan // 1941 Hudson Super 6 Sedan
Wanted:
1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Club Coupe // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Brougham // 1950 Hudson Super 6 Brougham
All Stepdown Coupes and Broughams
1937 Brougham, Victoria Coupe, Utility Coupe, and Sedan (all models acceptable)
1936 Coupe -
@commodorecollector - Took a look at a couple of the manufacturer's in your post. Yes, VERY expensive, and neither of the cordless power tools I looked-at (Cornwell or Matco) indicated any country of origin, and did not proclaim 'Made in USA' or the equivalent. One would think that would be a selling point (as it is with their sockets and some hand tools).
Snap-on is the most honest and detailed thus far, indicating country or origin in all listings that I looked at (and some of their stuff is made in China and elsewhere).
As you can probably tell, I am more that somewhat skeptical. -
@46HudsonPU - I can't blame you, you want something that will last a long time instead of breaking in several years.
What about Cobalt?Christopher
Wyotech Sacramento Grad 2013
- Collision and Refinishing
-Applied Service Management
Own:
1954 Hudson Hornet Sedan //1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Sedan // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Sedan // 1941 Hudson Super 6 Sedan
Wanted:
1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Club Coupe // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Brougham // 1950 Hudson Super 6 Brougham
All Stepdown Coupes and Broughams
1937 Brougham, Victoria Coupe, Utility Coupe, and Sedan (all models acceptable)
1936 Coupe -
@commodorecollector - You mean Kobalt Tools? If so, that is a 'brand name' that Lowes uses, similiar to the 'Rigid' brand that Home Depot uses. Personally, I think Lowes and Home Depot are attempting to 'hype' those names into the equivalent of 'Craftsman', which is Sears 'brand' name tools...
Don't worry or bother too much - I'm not really looking at the moment, although I may need make some 'power tool' purchases within a few months. At this point, I'm merely playing the role of "devil's advocate"... ;-) -
@46HudsonPU - Yeah I meant Kobalt.
With me getting into the auto industry as a professional I can see staying away from those band name tools (I have a few mastercraft at home, and even they started to wear within a day of hard use) and putting more money out to get something that has a lifetime warranty. However most tool manufacturers do not have lifetime warranties on Air and Cordless tools because they tend to break more often than hand tools.Christopher
Wyotech Sacramento Grad 2013
- Collision and Refinishing
-Applied Service Management
Own:
1954 Hudson Hornet Sedan //1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Sedan // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Sedan // 1941 Hudson Super 6 Sedan
Wanted:
1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Club Coupe // 1949 Hudson Super 6 Brougham // 1950 Hudson Super 6 Brougham
All Stepdown Coupes and Broughams
1937 Brougham, Victoria Coupe, Utility Coupe, and Sedan (all models acceptable)
1936 Coupe -
Yup - As you've already observed or taken note of, about the only thing that have a lifetime warranty are hand tools. Even then, you've got to be a bit careful - Sears now has a 'lower level' brand of hand tools - and it does not have that type of warranty...
Many 'Pros' pick a brand, and go with that throughout their lives. In your selected line of work, it definitely pays to go with a quality line of tools & and a manufacturer who will be there and available when you need them - and takes immediate action on any warranty 'claims'. After all, you can't do your work with an 'IOU a tool', if you know what I mean... -
Well just how do you guys expect the CEOs of these multinational companies to get their golden parachutes? And the leadership in China are all bazillionaires while the average Chinese person, though better off that in the times of Mao, still work hard and get relatively little for their honest labor. We all appreciate honest labor in this country no matter where it occurs, but probably only 1% of us care much for management cutting corners to enrich their own personal coffers.
Snap-On is a great American tool brand, with high quality tools and you will pay for that quality. For tools used frequently, buy the higher quality stuff if you can't stand the frustration factor, and for infrequent tools you can probably go with the less expensive (although not always a good strategy). My torque wrench is a satisfactory one, but I'm sure it was manufactured in China. At work, we use only Snap-On torque wrenches, and the quality is very clear in going from one to the other. Most Americans can't afford or won't pay the higher prices for these tools now that they have become accustomed to outfitting their entire tool box at Harbor Freight prices. If I have a tool where failure could cause injury or catastrophe, I will go with the American built brands to make that outcome an unlikely occurrance.
Chinese manufacturing has both a good and less stellar side to the story. We all have access to a lot more affordable tools, but we shouldn't expect the quality to be as high when we pay so much less for those tools. As time has gone along, the Chinese manufactured tools are becoming more expensive because the workers are demanding better pay, and the cost of shipping has increased, along with better manufacturing techniques in general. Theoretically there's a tipping point at which it is just as cost effective to manufacture here in this country at our labor rates.
I think Walter Chrysler was correct that the mark of a true mechanic is when he makes his own tools, something he did as a mechanic for the railroads. But then again, that was a completely different era. -
if it wasn't just us power tools you were looking for German is the next best thing
Festool has at least a 3 year warranty on there products not the cheapest, but I run a cabinetmaking shop and have done for 25 years and all my staff are gradually going to those
when I buy a new power tool for the general work shop its Festool
you guys by that brand in the US cheaper than we have to pay down under
they do also have a heavier grade up from that I think its calla powertool but from the same company
Lets hope the Chinese revalue there $ sooner or than later as its about 20-25% under valued
and all the manufacturing will return to there respective countries and jobs for everyone as it should be
just a thought
Mike
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Hello, I think that if we start really looking for any products made in the USA, we would be doing our country a big favor but if you look hard you will be abel to find good tools made in the good ol USA.
Nick Hansen -
catalog for Made in America - boots
http://www.steel-toe-shoes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=111
Others-
http://www.madeinamericastore.com/?gclid=CLKh_Iv_4rUCFQeznQodCXQAbw
http://madeinusaforever.com/
Includes tools
http://www.americansworking.com/tools.html


