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In this Discussion
- DocHornet September 2012
- hoggyrubber September 2012
- lostmind September 2012
- Park_W September 2012
- TOM-WA- September 2012
Transmission Removal
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Has anyone ever removed the transmission AND clutch from a short wheelbase Hudson.. I have a 54 wasp and would rather NOT go thru all the trouble of removing the front seat and the floor panels if the transmission can be removed from the underside of the car either as a unit or as separate clutch & transmission.
THANKS,
TOM-WA- -
i don't know about the difference for a short wheel base wasp, but i would have hated to do it without removing the floor pan. i just finished installing clutch and tranny a week or so ago and i thought it was a pain with the engine in the car. a pro could have done it better i'm sure. i did remove the rod right under tranny on pass side for brake cable which helped a little too.
it was such a piece of cake the first time i did it with the engine out. this time to get everything lined up was a pain. a extra person on top would have helped. i made a extension for my tranny jack since it was up about 3' in the air. if i have to do it again i might just pull the engine and tranny as a whole. -
Haven't done it on a short WB model, but I don't remove/install from the top any more ... too much strain on the back. With the parking brake hardware removed from below, a fairly simple process, you can lower or raise the tranny on a jack (the car has to be hign enough off the floor that the bell housing will clear the underside when removing or installing the assembly). I've found the tranny input shaft alignment is much easier when installing from below. Another very helpful if not mandatory aid is a couple of 3" headless bolts in the top two bell housing bolt holes. And another in the lower right block hole ... the one with the allignment device in it.
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A 54 trans should have the bolts on the outside of the bell housing, so you remove trans and than the bell housing from below.
You didn't say what year. -
iT'S A 1954 Short Wheelbase WASP and the Service Manual says to remove it from the top thru the floor.
That is why I am asking if ANYONE has Personally removed both the transmission and the Clutch on this model Hudson from the bottom..
That is contrary to what Lost mind just posted....Have you Personally done this removal?
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Not sure about the Wasp, but the other early 50's Hudson have a permanently welded rear tranny support. I took one out of a Pacemaker last year and I can't imagine how it could come out the bottom and clear that support.
Mine came out from inside (that's why they made that center trans. cover so large.. no problem for me, as this was a donor car, but would sure hate to wrestle with that thing inside a nice interior!
Mine went in my '51 Hornet originally equipped with a Hydramatic. The automatics DID have a rear support that unbolted from the frame on each side.
When I installed the manual tranny in my car, I modified the Hydramatic cross-member support to accommodate the manual transmission mount, so that I could unbolt the cross-member and install the transmission from the bottom... so much easier.
If you have a MIG welder, and a few balls, I can't see it would be too difficult to turn that fixed manual cross-member into a removable one. Just whack it off, then weld on some frame tabs to bolt it to. Shouldn't be rocket science -
that's a good tip for the 3rd headless bolt, Park W. i just usd the top 2. i used the same ones i used for head instillation.
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Tom-WA , while you're waiting for your answer on the SWB car , I can tell you I removed the clutch from under the car on a 54 Hornet. Did not need to remove the bell housing if my memory is correct.If your bolts are on the outsde of the trans , you should be able to slide it back on a jack to access the clutch.Maybe something with the short wheel base will get in the way?
Roy -
On the "full-size" stepdowns with 2-lever tranny, once the front shaft is clear of the clutch assembly you can incline the tranny and move it back to clear the cross-member to get it out from below with no problem. Done it at least twice and much prefer that to taking it out the top.
