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hudsontech

A story from Dayton - as I heard it Mal Fuller, reservation in hand, checked in only to be told they didn't have a reservation for him. Mal supposedly told them that was ok, he'd sleep in the lobby and started taking his shirt off!!! From what I heard they quickly fixed him up in something like a presidential suite.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

SamJ

Robert Baird of the Zia Chapter (New Mexico) has 3 '39's including an original convertible which always attracts attention. There is a photo of all three together on the back cover of a WTN (couple of years ago).

lostmind

I believe the Dayton National was put on by the Renners.It was in a Parking garage if I remember correctly.

1951hornethardtop

oldhudsons, I wish some of us old members would post some of the pictures taken at these early meets. I will when I find the pictures and learn how to do it on this electronic gadget. The pictures have been stored in many boxes that seemed to get misplaced. I think I do remember Harold. I certainly remember the cars. The 2 coupes--no. The 68 national in St Louis I owned a black 57 Hornet Hollywood that I was ashamed to drive to drive to a HET meet because it wasnt a real Hudson. I drove my 51 Hornet sedan. Someone had brought a 56 4 door Hudson. My wife and I were looking at and I made the statement " How this guy had more nerve than I did to even bring this 56 to the meet" A guy heard me and asked if I had one? I said ya but its a 57 hardtop. He ask me if I wanted to sell it? I replied you bet. He came to my house the next weekend and bought it. I was glad to get it out of the garage. The rest is all history, Right Paul? ( still crying to myself)

PaulButler

Got to love this forum & thread for bringing out the stories!

oldhudsons

lost - could be. I think the Gleyduras, led by "Chas", were the Club Librarians & I recall going to their home & seeing the Library, stashed in a basement so maybe that's where & why I got confused.
1951 - good for you, you got "righteous" in dumping that Hash, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

RL Chilton

Paul-

Amen! to that!

Sam-
Jan./Feb. 2010

lostmind

Oldhudsons , you are correct about the Gleyduras having the Club library. It was passed on to me for a few years.Every thing was done by mail and copy machine,the old xerox type!
I did a lot of correspondence with overseas Hudsonites.
My second Hudson came from Chas Gleydura , a 52 Hornet coupe. $375.00.
Drove it home and enjoyed it for 4 years before my first convertible came along.
Roy

35terraplane

Dan and Mary Cornell, RMHET members from Aurora, CO has a modified 39 112 business coupe. It was originally owned by Ed Wright.

ArkieJazz

Here's a few shots of my '39 CC8 Cv Cp currently in restoration process. One of these years, you'll be seeing this car at all the nats......if I live long enough
http://imageevent.com/arkiejazz/1939hudsoncountryclub8convcp

46HudsonPU

@ArkieJazz - Nice work, it looks like it is coming along.

Is that a '38 convertible, sitting right next to your '39?

Either that shade of yellow is pretty popular (most likely), or that car is seen completed in other internet photos floating around...

hudsonsplasher1

Great looking car!! I find it interesting that it has a floor shift. 39 was the first year to have the shift on the column. Maybe an early 39?

PaulButler

My '39 112 has a floor shift ; been looking everywhere for the bits to convert it to a column which I prefer

46HudsonPU

Actually, in '39 I believe that the 'floor shift' was standard, and that column shift was an option on just about everything.

If one pulls up the carpet/floor mat on a '39 with the column shift, you will note the 'outline' where the hole for the shifting lever is cut-out to make it a floor shift.
To convert from column to floor is simply a matter of taking the top plate off of the transmision, and replacing it with a floor shift plate/lever (and making the floor cut, if it has not already been done). I actually have several of these floor shift levers (with the 'transmission plate') sitting on a pallet in one of my storage areas.

The reverse is a bit more complicated - requiring all the linkage, parts-n-pieces, as Paul indicates.
I have not done one of those floor to column conversions myself, however a local member did this on his '39 Hudson 112 Model 90 pickup. (Yep - two of these rare beasts within 70 miles of each other here in MD - Teeny's may be on the road by now). Mine came out of TX (via Jim Guinn), and I believe Teeny's came out of Montana - And that is a story of its own...

A side-by-side comparision of these trucks by someone with a 'knowledgeable eye' will notice a few differences - his has the column shift, mine will have the floor shift (or should have); mine has a '38 dashboard (early model '39), his - produced later, has a '39 dashboard.

Teeny's '39, undergoing restoration (taken about 2 years ago) -

PaulButler

I do like to see these pictures of cars "in progress". Love the colour on that PU!

rod_n_hudson

Hello,

I'm in the "build stages" of a 1939 Hudson 112 Coupe. As the story goes it was driven to MI from Washington State.
The car will have a modern drive train with stock appearance. In the spring I should be driving it around and hope to run into some of you. Probably wont have final paint on it, but wont be afraid to show it off.

Mike

RL Chilton

Arkiejazz-

You've posted these before, but thanks for posting again. Love both of those ragtops! What model is the '38?

Krille

Paul, i have many bits for the linkage for coloumn shifting. I will check wich pieces i have and write them in to the list of parts that will go on your pallet.
I still havent heard from the postal service what they would charge for a pallet to the uk, i will call them next week and check.imight have a complete set except for the lever and wire. I know i have the steeringcoloumn bracket that holds both steering angd shifting coloum to the dash, the shifting coloumn, the gearbox-lid and some linkage parts. The bushings i think i saw on kgap, so if you want to give it a try to convert, i think i have most of your pieces.
I noticed some other parts that you might want, and some troubles with other parts. I will send you a list by mail next week, with a lot of pictures aswell.

To get back to the real topic, i got my serie 92 on the road again the day before yesterday. (posted one pic on facebook, having trouble putting pictures here because i am on an ipad, and apple don't want you to be able to do things you want to do on them) but it ran really well when hot, but a bit cranky whn cold. I think it is the top thats not really sealed when cold, i have to choke for unusually long time, and reduce slowly as its getting hotter, so probably taking fake air.
Tommorrow i will install my newly bought sunvisor and see how it gets. I will post pictures as soon as i can here.

Jon B

Pete -- re: the "lost" '39 Country Club conv. brougham in Indiana:

I am looking at photographic slide I took in the summer of '67 at an old car show in Washington Court House, Ohio, between Dayton and Columbus). The slide is of a yellow '39 Hudson convertible (the "big" Hudson with lights in fenders) with a black top. It's a brougham (rear quarter window). I seem to recall (whew! it's been 45 years, have mercy...) that it was a Country Club. It has FOUR bumper guards on front. I was a DeSoto guy at the time but this caught my attention.

So....would this have been the car you recall, maybe even Hortons?

Wish I could post it but have no idea how to convert a slide to jpg. Plus, I now live out in the country amongst the cows so have limited photographic resources...

ScottFitzgerald

@Krille If you email me the picture I can put it up for you. Email to SUBTERFUGEsf@classiccar.com

Remove SUBTERFUGE for real address.

46HudsonPU

Surprise - added photos to an old comment that no longer had any use. Put some pictures of a '39 Hudson 112 pickup here instead.

These are pictures of the same pickup (note the license plate) - As posted on the oldride.com website:

On the HET Southern California Chapter website's Sales area:

oldhudsons

Jon - that is undoubtedly it, I mean how many of them are there, anywhere??????
I've got the photo I took that includes it, will try to put it in here but, altho it is in color, is very small, like 2" X 2".

oldhudsons

on the back of the photo Nancy wrote that it was taken in Huntington in '66.

oldhudsons

Jon - cropped it, enlarged it, let's see how it came out (note the big yellow fog lights on the front, should help tell if it's the same one you photographed)

oldhudsons

hurray for me, LOL - here's the whole photo with Horton's '35 H8 conv. in front with the '39 CC conv. & parade of other Hudsons

oldhudsons

this indicates to me that the famed Transcontinental Run was in '66.
Wonder how many of the original participants are still with us?
I remember Pete & Nancy Jones drove a '53 H conv., Wayne Wehrle drove a PU, and Nancy, myself, and our friend herded a '33 T8 sd. (John found, fixed up, and drove it from Portsmouth, N.H. to Huntington where he joined us & the 3 of us continued all the way to Calif.).

Jon B

One guy who drove the TCR is Richard Polese, who writes a recurring column for the WTN. It would be fun to do an exhaustive article on the event (rather than a cursory mention in his column), I bet you could get some people to reminisce & contribute photos. We actually (I think) have MOVIES taken along the way by Doc! Why not write Richard and offer your services to assemble a reminiscence?

Yes, that is definitely the "mystery car" because of the four bumper guards (and my photo seems to show spotlights too). But it doesn't help us know where it is now! Undoubtedly it survived because it was already an unusual and well restored antique in '67.

PaulButler

@Krille

Hi Kristoffer , that looks real nice!

Thanks for the parts update ; let's see what the Postal Service comes back with

Jon B

Pete: okay, this information has just arrived from a little bird in Indianapolis....

The '39 yellow convertible did in fact belong to Carl Horton until about 1971, when it was sold to someone in Ohio. It's been rumored that it now resides New York State, owned by someone by the name of Faust who is not a Club member.

oldhudsons

OK Jon, glad to know it's still in existance.
I know Pete Jones was taking movies of the Run but whether he still has them or not I don't know (he was Club President for several years while I was Treasurer - saw him in '09 at National).

ArkieJazz

Ok, yes, I'm going to answer several questions which were slanted my way in one fell swoop. Yes, that's a '38 CC8 Cv Cp sitting next to my '39 CC8 Cv Cp. I don't own the '38, but isn't it so cool that two such very rare cars are sitting side by side in a resto shop? I think so. As to my car, yes, it had a floor shift when I got it, but it was delivered with the column shift. You have to remember that the '39 would have been driven through the war years. I'm sure the shift linkage for the column shift just became unusable over such a long period and the owner made do as best he could. All of the senior series cars in '39 came with column shift. Senior series meaning the Country Club cars. I think that the regular Hudson line up was also standard with column shift. I am not sure about the commercial vehicles and the 112's. Yes, Richard, I've posted the pictures before, but its a website that I add to from time to time. And I thought that there were probably new folks on the forum who hadn't seen the car. The car Pete Booz and others are discussing, the California Cream CC8 Cv Br was Carl Horton's car. There are a handful of Country Club Cv Broughams around, but as far as we've been able to determine, there are no other CC8 Cv Coupes in the states. There is a CC Cv. Cp in Sweden, but I do not know if it's a 6 or an 8. I bought my car from John Soneff 30 years ago in Denver. Should have had it done by now, but other Hudson products got put in front of it. I have driven the '39 CC8 Sd which is in Eldon Hostetler's collection as it used to belong to my dad. It's unbelievable that such a large car could handle so well. The steering on these cars is light and positive. The brakes are superior and the power to weight ration on the 8's is outstanding. The styling isn't everyone's cup of tea. I happen to really really like it. I will say that had my car been a Convertible Brougham, I would not have bought it. I personally don't like the little quarter windows and shorter deck that the Broughams had. The Convertible coupe was just a sportier looking car in my eye and that is what appeals to me.

hudsontech

Trivia - around 1938 Hudson, along with others, went to a column shift. There after they started advertizing their cars as "6 passenger" models. Previously cars were "5 Passenger" because it was awkward to have 3 passengers in the front seat with a floor shift.
Unless you were out on a date........................

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

RL Chilton

Thanks, ArkieJazz for posting the info. Sent you a PM.

ArkieJazz

RL, I never received your PM. You can email me at grumpyoldgroucharkiejazz@aol.com
remove the grumpyoldgrouch.

Tallent R

For some reason PM"S dont allways go thru. Look under "Activity" when you log in as they are sometimes hidden there for you ,
Roger

RL Chilton

Roger--
Sent you a PM.

oldhudsons

just posted on my website front view of the '39 CC 8 bus. cp. I restored

46HudsonPU

One more time -

oldhudsons

the upholstery on this was all very nice & original too

RL Chilton

That' s a sharp car. Did the BCpe's have access all the way into the trunk?

oldhudsons

no, had an upholstered package panel.
I always thought the Victoria coupes interesting, have photo of one with completely original interior in the back.

ArkieJazz

According to a closely connected source, that "lost" '39 CC Cv Brougham was purchased from the original owner's family in 1962 by Carl Horton. The car had been domiciled in the Jacksonville, Florida area and was a bit rusty around the edges. The car was originally a black 6 cylinder. Mr. Horton trailered the car back to Indiana and restored it in California Cream which was an original factory offering in 1939.

RL Chilton

Arkie, that's impossible. I know for a fact the factory closed in '54. By '62, no more colors were available! ;)

ArkieJazz

typed the wrong year. now corrected

oldhudsons

just posted photos of '39 CC 6 Victoria cp. to website - interesting as was originally sold in S. Africa but now in England - has leather upholstery, dual sidemounts, and as a Victoria cp. the little rear compartment has jump seats

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