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DocHubler

Probably not much interest in a splasher 6 engine, but I have a 1939 engine if anybody's interested. Came out of the 41 pickup. Putting a 47 in that instead.

46HudsonPU

Hi Doc,
I've seen a couple of requests for a '39 Hudson engine on this Forum in the last couple of years, so you may well find someone who is interested. Pictures will help (if it isn't too much trouble), along with your location (distance matters) & an estimate of the engine's condition.

I offered my '39 to the folks at the time (still have it), but they were not really interested in the 175 cu in that came in most 112 Hudsons. It doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there that would LOVE to have it, it just means that you might need to extend the audience. I would recommend putting it in the WTN as well.

Kdancy

Location ?

onerare39

I'm interested! When I get to my 112 Panel Delivery project I want to keep the original engine in the car, but know that I will need spare engine parts to do it. Let me know where you are located and what the price is.

John Forkner

DocHubler

Hi John! This is Tim Hubler. I'm in West Richland, WA. The cost is whatever it takes to ship it. I'll get a picture and the serial number so you can verify the engine. It was in my 1941 1/2T PU, and I'm rebuilding a 1947 212 engine for that since it is closer to the original. The 1939 engine runs -- drove the PU up my driveway when I got it. But you'll want to check bearings, do general cleanup, etc. Like these engines should, it just purrs very quietly as it idles. Actually, I also want as payment for you to let me see your beautiful panel delivery when it is done. it is AWESOME!! Now, that is a rare car!

BTW, I'm from idaho, and there was a company based in Boise known as Owyhee candy company, and they had a photo on the boxes of their candy products that showed a lineup of these vehicles -- 1937 Terraplane panel delivery vehicles. All long gone, I'm sure, but one could always hope to win the lottery!

Tim

onerare39

Tim,

What a great offer! Do you think you could band it to a sturdy pallet board for transporting? I'll be glad to reimburse you for costs plus something for your effort. I'll contact Jim, who posts on the discussion portion of the forum. Jim crisscrosses the country hauling almost anything that is automobile related. Do you have a way of lifting the engine onto his trailer or into the back of his truck? This would have been a whole lot easier if I still lived in Edmonds, Washington, as I would have driven over and picked it up myself.

Also, are you a member of the Hudson Essex Terraplane Club? I would be glad to send you the latest issue of the White Triangle News, the official publication of the Hudson Essex Terraplane Club. It is an award winning magazine that has great articles and resources for finding Hudson parts and information. You reside in the Northwest Chapter of the Hudson Essex Terraplane Club which covers Oregon, Washington and British Columbia, but most people who live on the east side of the Cascades belong to the Gem State Chapter, which encompasses all of Idaho. I know this as I used to be the president of the Northwest Chapter. I do have a friend who lives in Seabeck, Washington who travels to Yakima on a regular basis. I could maybe have him pick it up for me, and then I could pick it up from him at some time.

Let's see what we can do to make this work.

Thanks again for the offer.

John Forkner

email - XXXForkner@aol.com (drop the XXX when emailing)

Ottobethere

That panel truck is to cool!!!! I really like the style of the front windshield.

onerare39

same styling cues?

DocHubler

John,

Here's some info on the engine. Serial number 9238087. Dual Barrel carb, so this engine came out of a 1939 Hudson Six, which was a replacement for the former Super Terraplane according to Butler's book. So this engine was rated at 101 hp. Butler's book says that the dual barrel carb was an option for this engine. Distributor is located down on the side, just so it is extra easy to get at with that 1939 hood arrangement!

I attached some pictures of the engine. Also, painted, is my 175 ci engine rebuilt for my 41 sedan, also pictured. I have a picture of the underside of the bonnet on that car which shows the original factory "chalk" marks which read 5/24 10 BR. This means assembly date of May 24, 1941, Hudson Six Deluxe Model, Baronet Blue/Richmond Gray paint code. The pickup had a similar marking on the hood, and was dated earlier as fits with its serial number. Someone had painted over the hood on my coupe.

I'll be doing some business travel, so it will be a couple of weeks before I can get down to business about sending it to you.

And yes, I'm a member of the club since about 1994. I'm actually the newsletter editor for Northwest (and I bet they are wondering where their newsletter is -- I better get that done).

If you want to see some pictures of my other projects, let me know.

Tim

onerare39

Tim,

There is no urgent rush on my part, let's wait to see what falls in place. If you want to hear a great story, have Dick Riggs tell you about him finding the 1939 panel delivery, it's a hoot.

I also have a 1950 50-A Pacemaker that I purchased from Steve Welzbacker.

Everyone on this forum loves pictures, so go ahead and share some more here for us all to enjoy.

John Forkner

46HudsonPU

For anyone that may have an interest - Here's some pictures of that 'spare' 1939 Hudson 175 cu in engine I have. I picked it up in southern NC a couple years back (engine turns over easily, no attempt has been made to start it). The guy was making a '39 112 coupe (commercial series, I believe) into a period correct race car. Got a package deal that included this, and the front grille.
You'll note the one, rear breather tube - an indicator that it is a 175cu in. The 212 cu in came with two, one for each valve cover.

DocHubler

John,

I'm back, but gone again soon. I've been in Mongolia for nearly a month and now taking off for Europe. Should be back in a couple of weeks, and yes, it's for business, I'm not just playing around! Here's a few pictures of my '67 Toronado project which is the latest I'm working on. Quite unique cars, and mine is actually a rare one given its production numbers and rare original options. I purchased it from the original owner -- had to replace the rusted vinyl roof. Standard production; 425 ci, 385 hp, 480 lb/ft torque, FWD, 1967 production around 22,000 cars. My car has the stratobucket seats with center locker box; in 1967, only about 50 out of 44K cars had this option; car also has factory 8 track tape player and the Comfortron automatic climate control system - a rare and expensive option. This was about a $7000 car in 1967. Miles of vacuum lines to make it all work! I have a picture of the Hy-Vo chain drive on these transmissions, something few people ever see. After we got new roof on, the car had two dings on the passenger door and a few rusty spots on the rear rockers, that's all. BTW, the yellow hearse in the background is a 1939 Studebaker Bender Hearse. I have an entire writeup on the history of that car which I researched out of interest and for my friend that runs the body shop, which sadly won't be properly restored. The other picture is the older model transportation in Mongolia; a bactrian camel.

dholck

Hey - you will see a couple weeks ago here in this forum and in "parts wanted" in the current WTN that I asked for anybody having a 34 block or a 36 - 39 to put in a 34 T coupe. The rebuilders say the 34 block is kaput and NOBODY has offered anything firm on 34 or 35 blocks to rebuild. I had already gotten all the parts to rebuild the 34, so I would have liked to go that way, but a 36 to 39 should also go in there. I am in California, so could pick up a block in Washington ... please let me know if there's anything left from anybody here in the chain when it all shakes out. Are the 30s cars now dead to resto-rodding? TKS

onerare39

Tim,

I talked to Jim last week about transporting the motor for me. He said to monitor his travels through his posts in the Off Topic section of the CC forum. He went right by Richland last week, but was then headed South to California. When He posts that he is going through Washington and headed to the Midwest I'll check to see if you can get the engine ready for Jim to pick up, I understand that you may or may not be in town. I will send an email to Dick Riggs to see if he is driving to Gettysburg, maybe he can swing through Kansas, or I can pick it up in Gettysburg since I'll be there too.

Your nicely optioned Toronodo project is pretty cool! I had a friend that I went to High School with whose dad had a Toronodo similar to yours, same color too.. We could load that thing up with eight guys and still smoke the tires (I had no idea that it was a chain drive), it was a really cool sleeper with an incredible top-end. I'll bet the Studebaker hearse project will be something when it's done, maybe an Allison V-12 in the back? My winter project this year is a 1940 Henney/Packard hearse that I have had for about ten years, it's all stock though. I will start on the 39 Hudson panel when I get the hearse done.

Mongolia, huh... the bactrain camel is certainly an interesting mode of transportation, I don't know if it beats walking or not. I don't know if would have the stomach (intestinal fortitude) for traveling in Mongolia.

Be safe in your travels.

John Forkner

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