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Hudson Greater Eight
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hallo,
    my name is Juergen I am from germany and new in this forum. I like the US prewar cars of the depression era and I own a small collection. I am going to purchase a 32 Greater Eight Special Coupe in full restored condition. Here in germany this make is not well known. In the past I spent a lot of time under my cars, now I want to drive and have fun, no more work,, only maintain the cars. My question to all who can give me infos or has experiences in this model, is it a good reliable driver, what special attention I must pay. Do in USA part-supplier existe ?
    Every info is appreciated.
    Thank you and regards from germany
    Juergen
  • oldhudsonsoldhudsons
    Posts: 1,728Platinum Member
    Juergen - assuming it has been restored authentically & correctly about the only thing you'd have to watch is the functioning of the vacuum tank. They are completely reliable if done properly, can be a problem if climbing steep grades but most of Germany pretty flat.
    The '32 straight 8 is a very reliable & smooth power plant.
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,576Platinum Member
    Yes ,the design was basicly used with updates till 1952 .There are still a lot of parts around here in the US for them. Like tune up parts and carburetor kits ,gaskets water pumps and so on.Join the Hudson Essex Terraplane club and you get a bi-monthly magazine with tons of ads and info in the back on parts .
    Roger
    Retired Tech.
  • StillOutThereStillOutThere
    Posts: 425Gold Member
    I'll be very surprised if there is a carburetor kit readily available for the updraft carb of a '32 Hudson.

    It is a splash oiler engine. My opinion is that is the biggest maintenance problem. I would drop the pan immediately, make sure the screens are present, not rusted away, and absolutely clean.

    And also change the Hudsonite clutch oil.

    These things must be done per the factory schedule. All Hudsons are high mechanical maintenance cars.
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    Juergen, welcome! I wish you the best of luck in your decision on purchasing an older car.

    We who own Hudsons enjoy them very much, but with any "older" car -- Hudson or any other marque -- there will be MUCH more maintenance involved than with a "newer" car. This is especially true of the early 1930's.

    That is why we have clubs like the Hudson-Essex-Terraplane Club which has approximately 3,500 members worldwide. If you purchase this automobile it would be logical to join the H-E-T Club. The website is at http://www.hetclub.org/ .

    If you purchase this car, one thing you can do is to communicate with owners of similar 1932 Hudsons, via e-mail or telephone. They can offer advice on repair, restoration, or maintenance. I know of a 1932 Hudson Eight coupe which is located not far from me. The same owner also has a 1933 Hudson Eight, which is quite similar.

    I can offer you no advice on this particular year of Hudson, but I am sure that you will receive many replies to your question, from people are knowledgeable. Also, be aware that there is a website containing much technical literature for Hudsons, which you can download. It is located here: http://hetclub.org/burr/lithomepage.htm .

    The Bullenstall car museum has one Hudson in its collection, a 1948 six-cylinder model. The owner, Gert Lohse is quite friendly and he may have heard of other Hudsons (older, like your car) in Germany. You might want to talk to him. The website of the museum is http://www.oldtimerauto.de/ .
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hallo,
    thank you very much to all, I am very glad about all the tips. I own prewarcars since more than 20 years (In the moment Buick 1930, 1933, Chevy 1931). It is indeed another world than the "modern" cars. Of course I will join the club when I have the car. It is good to hear, that I can get help, but I hope the promis of the preowner is honest and the condition is nearly perfect, no leaks ,perfect running, all new gaskets... (but who knows...)
    Must I pay special attention to the clutch in oil, is this special oil available ?
    By the way, I would like to know how many- in your estimation - Standart Special Coupes 1932 greater eight have been built and how many existe today.

    Regards Jurgen
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,044Platinum Member
    Good afternoon Jurgen - let me add my welcome to the HET forum.

    I don't have any parts to help you but I do maintain an online library which has a 1930-1933 Hudson 8 Service (shop) manual along with some other 1932 Hudson literature.

    The library may be accessed @:

    http://hetclub.org/burr/lithomepage.htm - click on 1930-1939 Manuals.

    Check out the other parts of the 1930-1939 section - there is other helpful material there.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • Ken U-Tx
    Posts: 1,104Platinum Member
    Hallo Jürgen, aus welcher Gemeinde / Stadt bist du? Grüße aus Texas. Kenneth Ufheil
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,576Platinum Member
    There are three places I know of that have the clutch oil. The H.E.T club store ,Doug Wildrick The Clutch Guy, and Russel & Randy Maas.
    Roger
    Retired Tech.
  • BrowniepetersenBrowniepetersen
    Posts: 2,417Platinum Member
    Hi, and welcome to the forum and good luck with your purchase of the 1932 Greater 8. I do not have any parts, and very little good advice. However, There are several folks on the forum that have experience with the Hudson 8's. I currentlhy have a 1936 Hudson 8 that was manufactured by Coachcraft south of London England. I have recently completed a frame off restoration for my car. My carborator is different than yours but Walt Morrdenti (HETmmordrnti@aol.com) drop the HET for his actual email address; is one of the gentlemen that specializes in carbs and is sure to chime in on this post sometime soon.

    Clutch fluid is not that hard to find. It is often on ebay. Also, there are several high quality new fluids that are available in the market.

    As far as Hudson's go the 1932's and a very good looking car and do have quite good reliability. You will find, if you should buy it, that it will be an improvement over the fine cars you currently have.
    Brownie
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    I would estimate there are 4 or 5 of the 1932 coupes in existence, but that is just a guess. You might wish to contact the gentleman who maintains a registry of all the remaining 1932 Hudsons. His name is David Putman and he lives in Utah, USA. His e-mail address is HETDBPutman@msn.com -- PLEASE remove the HET from the address before e-mailing him!

    You might ask him how many coupes are still listed in his list. However, he only knows of those vehicles whose owners have taken the time to advise him of their cars! If you purchase the 1932 Hudson, he would be happy to receive the information on your car so he can add it to his list.

    You may purchase the "Hudsonite" clutch oil from Wildrick Restoration in Indiana, USA http://www.wildrickrestoration.com/ . You may also use a certain type of automatic transmission oil but perhaps someone else can inform you of the exact type.
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hallo Kennth,
    ich bin aus Altenstadt, Nähe Frankfurt am Main (I am from Altenstadt, near Frankfurt am Main). Why do you speak so good german ?

    I am very happy about all the informations I got. Thank you all, it is a great help !!!
    I think it needs 2-3 month until the Hudson is here in germany if I purchase it. I will post pics when the deal is sucessful finished.

    Regards Juergen
    (please excuse my bad english)
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hallo,
    from germany, the time is gone and since a few days I have the Hudson greater eight here in my house. She is well arrived . Some problems appeared, like electrical malfunction, engine dont start... but I hope I can find solutions, she was not on the road for a long lime . I try to attach a foto . If somebody perhaps has some information about this car, please let me know it.

    Regards from germany
    Juergen
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  • Park_WPark_W
    Posts: 2,053Platinum Member
    Juergen, that's a beautiful car, and I know you will enjoy it. Regarding maintenance questions, I suggest you speak with my friend Hansruedi Haessig in Switzerland. He lives about 20 km south of Zuerich, and the east side of the Zuerichsee. Hansruedi is an excellent mechanic and for many years the owner of a nice '32 Essex. Electrical and other systems are pretty similar to those on the Hudson, so he can be a good source of information and advice on maintaing your car. email is hethrhaessig@bluewin.ch. (remove the "het" for the actual address)
  • oldhudsonsoldhudsons
    Posts: 1,728Platinum Member
    that is really a BEAUTIFUL '32 H cp.!
    It's also has several quite expensive options, the dual sidemounts & the wood spoked wheels. The std. wheels were wire wheels & those wood ones an expensive option.
    I wonder if this is the one that used to belong to Harry Jones of Reno, Nv. many years ago as has been noted above, not too many '32 Hudson coupes around?
    Congradulations on a great purchase!
  • Lee ODellLee ODell
    Posts: 1,841Platinum Member
    WOW!!! That is a beautiful car Juergen. Congratulation on your purchase. Thanks for shareing the photo with us. It is rare we get to see a 1932 Hudson. Not many listed in the club roster. I get excited when I see one. I have a 32 headlight setting on my cabinet to look at. That is the closest I will come to owning 32 Hudson.

    Have a great day.
    Lee O'Dell
  • essexcoupe3131essexcoupe3131
    Posts: 1,219Platinum Member
    Hi Juergen,
    that is 1 fine 32, you must be so proud of it and in fantastic condition, keep the photos coming for us all to see
    Mike
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    The car looks very nice! Such a car is obviously so well taken care of that any problems must be easily fixable!

    What exactly is the problem in starting? Do you depress the starting button and then the starting motor does not function? Or, does the starting motor turn the engine, but the engine does not start?

    Does the battery not work? (For example, have you connected the POSITIVE terminal of the battery to the ground or "earth" of the car? This is the way in which it was designed to run.)

    Perhaps if you will explain in detail exactly what happens -- or does NOT happen -- we can offer some suggestions.
  • 53jetman53jetman
    Posts: 873Platinum Member
    Jon - FYI It wasn't until sometime after '33 that Hudson went to the positive ground in their electrical system. Not sure just when, but it seems like I have heard like 1936.
    Jerry
    email: HudsonJetman@mail.com
    2nd Generation Hud-Nut
    HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954
    HET Registrar of all Hudson Jets
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,044Platinum Member
    1934 for positive ground.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hallo,
    thanks for the good wishes. In the moment it is very cold in germany and not so funny to work on the car, although I have big a heated garage. Most of the promises the seller gave me - perfect running engine , prof. overhault - are not true. This car was not running and on the road for a long time. Anyway I will bring it back on the road. For 1933 is negative ground, the starter runs and turn the engine but I was not looking further why. I would be very happy about some help, I am sure I need , when I know whats the matter.

    Regards from cold germany
    Juergen
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    Sorry, I didn't realize positive ground began in 1934.
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Here is a pic of the moment the Hudson arrived here.
    Because it is to cold for working at the car, I collect in the moment infos and literature and parts. Ignition parts I found on ebay and literatur here on the HET page , really great !! I am looking for gaskets ?? I joined the HETClub in the meantime.
    Now I try to get some infos about the history. The seller could not give any infos.
    One of the preowner was Joseph Bazell, Logan OH and then Dorothy Sheridan, Washington Township OH. I tried to get in touch with David Putman but the email came back, not the correct adress, I removed the HET before. The seller told me, this car was well known in the scene and award winner.Perhaps somebody has some infos about, I would be very pleased.

    Best regards from germany
    Juergen
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  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    The address you used for Mr. Putman -- was it DBPutman @ msn.com ? That is the address posted at the H-E-T Club website. If it is incorrect, I will report this to the website!

    I am e-mailing Mr. Bazell's grandson at the moment ... will get back if I discover anything about your car!
  • bent metalbent metal
    Posts: 1,348Platinum Member
    Wow! Beautiful car. :)
  • essexcoupe3131essexcoupe3131
    Posts: 1,219Platinum Member
    Hey Bent already had to wipe the dribble of my chin now its time to do yours LOL
    Shes a real beauty ha
    Mike
  • oldhudsonsoldhudsons
    Posts: 1,728Platinum Member
    you might consider joining the Hudson 8 website at yahoo.com - we have over 200 members worldwide.
    What gaskets do you need?
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hi,
    Jon B thank you for emailing to Mr. Bazills grandson, you know an old car is for me always alive with its history, I try to know as much as possible about my cars.
    I mailed to Mr. Putman to the adress you gave me, the mail came back..., perhaps he has a new one ? I need an oil pan gasket that is sure, because I will remove and clean it and perhaps intake and exaust manifold gasket, but I have not heard the engine running until today. Oldhudsons, where can I buy it , if nessesary, also clutch oil, or what kind of automatic transmission oil can I use instead ?
    Thanks to all ...!!!!
    Regards Juergen
  • BrowniepetersenBrowniepetersen
    Posts: 2,417Platinum Member
    Hi, Great looking car you have there. Dave Putman is still at his home in Utah and currently is the Desert Chapter President. Here is his contact information:

    Dave Putman
    409E. Mutton Hollow Drive
    Kaysville, Utah 84037
    Phone: 801 544-9175
    Email: DBPutman@msn.com

    Give him another try..... If you cannot reach him let me know and I will contact him and link you folks up.....
    Brownie
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,576Platinum Member
    No need to use a substitute oil. The HET club store as well as acouple of the club vendors have it . I am sure Dale Cooper has the gaskets,
    Roger
    Retired Tech.
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Hallo Browniepetersen,
    thanks for your answer, I tried again to come in touch with Dave Putman, but unfortunately did not work, email came back. If you can help me to come in touch with email I would be very pleased, letter needs a long time, and phone, I am afraid my english is not so good.

    Regards Juergen
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,576Platinum Member
    Dont worry about your english you are doing fine
    Roger
    Retired Tech.
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    Juergen:

    I just received an e-mail from Brian Bazell, grandson of one of the previous owners of this car, Mr. Joseph Bazell, who died many years ago.

    Unfortunately, neither Brian nor anyone in the family, knows much of the car's history. And sadly, his grandmother died very recently. She would have been able to give you the history of the car.

    Brian says that your 1932 Hudson was his grandfather's favorite car of the more than 50 antique cars he owned over the years.

    After the car was painted, Brian was re-installing the gasoline tank, when it slipped from his hands, hitting him in the forehead. He says he still bears the scar from that injury!

    Brian says he is going to visit the gentleman who did a lot of work on your car when Joe Bazell owned it. Possibly that gentleman will recall some of the car's history. I'll post a message here, if I learn any more.

    ---Jon B.

    Postscript -- I did send an e-mail to Mr. Putman at the address you mentioned, and it was not returned. So possibly your e-mail host has some sort of conflict with his e-mail host. Maybe you could ask a friend to send an e-mail to Mr. Putman (from a different e-mail host).
  • JuergenJuergen
    Posts: 26Hitchhiker
    Jon B,
    great, it is very exciting for me to discover a part of the curriculum of such an old and rare car, (I am teacher of law and history) thank you for your help. Perhaps we learn still more about it, with your and Brians help. Please say thank you to Brian in my name. In the title Joseph Bazell owned the car until 2007 then sold to Dorothy M. Sheridan.
    I´ll try to email Mr. Putman from another PC

    Regards Juergen
  • mikeybmikeyb
    Posts: 60Senior Contributor
    Hallo Juergen, schön dass es jetzt noch einen Hudson in Deutschland gibt! Ich fahre einen '49 stepdown. Das Kupplungsfluid (nennt sich "Hudsonite") habe ich im Clubshop des HET clubs bestellt und nach einigen Wochen kam es problemlos an.

    Viel Spass mit Deinem neuen Auto!

    Mike
  • BrowniepetersenBrowniepetersen
    Posts: 2,417Platinum Member
    Juergen wrote:
    Jon B,
    great, it is very exciting for me to discover a part of the curriculum of such an old and rare car, (I am teacher of law and history) thank you for your help. Perhaps we learn still more about it, with your and Brians help. Please say thank you to Brian in my name. In the title Joseph Bazell owned the car until 2007 then sold to Dorothy M. Sheridan.
    I´ll try to email Mr. Putman from another PC

    Regards Juergen

    Spoke with Dave Putman tonight and he has been on holiday. He will be checking in on this forum as soon as he gets squared away.
    Brownie
  • dbputman
    Posts: 8Hitchhiker
    Juergen,

    Brownie says that you are having trouble getting in contact with me. My email address is dbputman@msn.com

    Dave Putman
  • rockin tomrockin tom
    Posts: 48Senior Contributor
    Hey Juergen,

    really beautiful car, congratulations. It is nice to see another HET-Car in germany. There are a few, but it is very difficult to find them... Our Hudsons are a 52 Pacemaker and a 48 Commodore 8 (for Restauration). I hope you can solve all problems on your hudson and if you want to do a little hudson-talk in german, feel free an send a message...

    Greetings from Niederbayern

    Tom
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