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Starter Woes Still
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I posted a topic last month about a starter for my 50 Nash with what I believe is a 51 motor,[ according to the manual]. The flywheel ring gear is set back 1/2 inch from the front of the flywheel. Someone sugested to get a delco remy 1109463 starter, which I did. First try, she jammed up. Apparently not the correct one, or maybe I need a different bendix. Does any one have any idea what starter this motor takes? This is the only thing holding me back from getting this thing running. Your help is greatly appreciated. Jim
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You might try asking this question over at the AACA's "AMC / Nash" forum, at http://forums.aaca.org/f157/
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Sounds like you have a different year motor in the car than you think it is. Could it be a later AMC Rambler 195 cubic inch motor someone put in place of the original Nash 185 cubic inch motor? By all the records i have seen the Delco starter was the one used by 1951 Nash Statesmans with manual transmission. Is the waterpump on the side of the block behind the generator? Pictures might help.
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Yes ,It could be a Rambler engine that I have. It's No.S22176. I had to change the harmonic balancer from the wide pulley to the narrow one to match the generator and fan pully. Yes,the generator is on the side which runs the water pump. The motor I pulled out was No. S350230 Wereas, the flywheel was bolted to the crank, the one I replaced held the flywheel with studs. Hope this helps with idenity. Jim
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41 hud wrote:Yes ,It could be a Rambler engine that I have. It's No.S22176. I had to change the harmonic balancer from the wide pulley to the narrow one to match the generator and fan pully. Yes,the generator is on the side which runs the water pump. The motor I pulled out was No. S350230 Wereas, the flywheel was bolted to the crank, the one I replaced held the flywheel with studs. Hope this helps with idenity. Jim
Sigh..... S22176, that serial number is for a 1949 Nash "600" series 40. You said it was a 1951 motor. The starter number I have in the book for the 1949 "600" (Statesman) is Delco 1109451. Kenneth -
S350230 is a 1952 series 40 Statesman motor of 195.6 cubic inches. The 1949 motor you now have in the car is the small 172.6 cubic inch motor. Nothing was what you thought it was at first. Giving the serial numbers when requesting help goes along way in getting the correct answers. When a car is over 60 years old, many things could have been changed in it's life, so never assume anything.
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I was just going by the manual. That was the best I could do with the infomation I had. The guy I bought it off of gave me some bad info. Anyway, I will search for the starter you mentioned. Do you have an interchange book? I guess I should invest in one of those. Sure would save a lot of chasing. Thank you very much. Jim
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You have a 51 Statesman engine. Numbers between S-207001 and S-306795 confirm this. Starter part # is Delco Remy 1109463 for Models 10 and 40. Model 60( I believe is Ambassador)is 1107950 or 1107965. The part # is differant for a 49 and 50 and that may be the problem
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RonS wrote:You have a 51 Statesman engine. Numbers between S-207001 and S-306795 confirm this. Starter part # is Delco Remy 1109463 for Models 10 and 40. Model 60( I believe is Ambassador)is 1107950 or 1107965. The part # is differant for a 49 and 50 and that may be the problem
Ron the serial number Jim gave is S350230, it doesn't fall in the 1951 year range, it falls in the 1952 year range. Kenneth -
RonS
I put in 1109463 starter into S-22176. No go. It bolted in but bound up. Wouldn,t even turn using balancer bolt. Kenu-tex says its a 49 Nash 600 motor by his books. taking Delco 1109451. Interchangability didn't seem to be much of an issue back then.
RonS please note you have seven digits in your numbers wereas I only have six. Would that make a difference in the model or year of engine? I also have an extra block S-83120. Would you know what that's out of? Thanks Jim -
Jim, the 1949 Statesman series 40 stared with serial number S-1001, and ended with S-92000, so both S-22176 and S-83120 were built in the 1949 model year.
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Motors Manuals will have the info on which starter, generator, etc fits which model by the number on the unit. Nash was probably the worst as far as making changes so things wouldn't interchange from year to year, yes, worse than Chrysler!, Bill Archer put a 51 Ambassador engine in his 40 Ambassador years ago and had to make so many modifications that he almost gave up on it. But he got it in there in spite of Nash Motors.
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This company may be helpful for parts: http://www.blaserauto.com/
