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faustmb

Terraplane 33 -I contacted David Putnam who currently keeps the registry. It would be worth emailing him to see if you car is registered. PM me for his email address.

Also, my dads engine is complete and disassembled at the moment, so I can provide pics or details of the water jacket, water pump etc.

Not to hijack the thread, but aircleaner I have needs a new filter. Whats inside now looks like water damaged cardboard. Has anyone successfully cracked one of these open?

Matt

oldhudsons

nice to know these registrys are still being kept

Terraplane33

faustmb wrote:

Terraplane 33 -I contacted David Putnam who currently keeps the registry. It would be worth emailing him to see if you car is registered. PM me for his email address.

Also, my dads engine is complete and disassembled at the moment, so I can provide pics or details of the water jacket, water pump etc.

Not to hijack the thread, but aircleaner I have needs a new filter. Whats inside now looks like water damaged cardboard. Has anyone successfully cracked one of these open?

Matt

I post you a picture of mine, there is some uggly red paint on the outside but this will change soon !

It looks like I will soon have a lot of spares for the old lady !

cargray

Hello to Terraplane8,,Here is the pictures of the water jackets. the one in front is the one for your 33 T8. The other one is for 34&35 8 cyl. It has the larger pipe for the hose..The pic of backside is the T8....If anyone else needs the 34 -35 it is for sale..also have a 36 -47 6 cyl. in like condition..All others are sold. Thanks RD

faustmb

I figured it makes sense to add a few pcs I looking for for my dads 33T8 here too;

- Shift knob
- fuel pump
- crankcase vent tube (long U shaped pc)

Everything else so far he collected over the years, air cleaner, water pump, starter, transmission, flywheel, etc. Just these few loose ends never showed up...

Rocket

can I get your contact imfo I am looking for one for my 36 Hudson 8cyl thanks

Terraplane33

faustmb wrote:

I figured it makes sense to add a few pcs I looking for for my dads 33T8 here too;

- Shift knob
- fuel pump
- crankcase vent tube (long U shaped pc)

Everything else so far he collected over the years, air cleaner, water pump, starter, transmission, flywheel, etc. Just these few loose ends never showed up...

here are some pictures (as promised) of what I have :

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oldhudsons

if you have problems with water pump leakage & or rebuilding let me know.

bent metal

Would you have any pictures of your battery box area, and the hold down/lid?

Terraplane33

I will make you a picture within a couple hours, it'as about 11pm here...

Terraplane33

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the battery has a wooden cover (looks like it's original)

ESSX28-1 · ESSX28-1 August 2011 Posts: 994Platinum Member

1933 Essex 8 owners manual on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/33-1933-Essex-8-owners-manual-rare-/320746388854?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item4aadf97d76

bent metal

Thanks for the pictures! The battery box looks close to the anti-sway bar, does it ever rub?

terraplane8

bent metal wrote:

Thanks for the pictures! The battery box looks close to the anti-sway bar, does it ever rub?

That is the lever shock absorber I think you will find.

bent metal

Ok, I understand now. So how does the battery box lid work? It looks like it's got two pins/screws. One stationary with maybe a slot in the plywood lid. The other pin is perhaps a round head screw with a large washer? With no actual internal battery hold down, thus, the plywood lid?

How much of that is true?

Richard E.

Guy, I have the battery box for my '36T out of the car. It may be the same part? What you have described is how the '36 works - in fact K-Gap sells the wooden lids. I have the old one and the new one. I moved my battery to the trunk because I got tired of lifting up the floor mat to get to the battery box. I will be back in CA on Sept 9 if you need to use my battery box as a model??

bent metal

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Thanks Richard. Actually, I had K-Gap bring me a new battery lid and differential hole cover. The canvas thing. Anyhow, the battery cover is different. Not the same size from '36 (which they have a '36) to '33. I don't know where the change was made. But at some point the opening dimension was changed. That's ok, I can see the opening size. I'd like to make the box and hold down look sorta' correct. Doesn't have to be exact.

I pretty much know what to do. But I'm not clear on the hold down, and lid. I might just do it.

terraplane8

Sorry can't help you as my car has no lid and no hold down either. The battery is held in place by the stout battery cables so it isn't a problem for me.

oldhudsons

the "lid" which sits down in a slightly recessed lip around the edge of the battery box is made of wood with a hole drilled in it so you can lift it out.

Terraplane33

I will post some more detailed pictures of my battery lid and the way it's fixed to the florr maybe this can help and any comments will be very welcome even about mine...
I bought a NOS head gasket but would like to know wich side is above/underneath before assembling. I got my original piston from Sir Lester J Harris with all my thanks to him, will be in place within a couple days

(will also post pictures)
Many thanks to the classiccar.com members who helped me a lot !

Terraplane33

Some news : the piston is in place and the cooling jacket is underway, in the mean time I can already start to put everything back together. Thanks to many of you, the old Terraplane will soon be in a better shape !!

Terraplane33

I have a question in regards to the headgasket, it's possible to install it both ways but I dont know wich side should be up or down, any advice ??
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the engine has been painted grey with a primer prior to turn to the original silver color maybe tomorrow

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Geoff C., N.Z.

The gasket goes with the crimp around the bores upwards.

Terraplane33

Thanks a lot Geoff !! It will be properly installed tomorrow

Terraplane33

Would anyone have a cross section view of the clutch bearing assembly?
Is there a place where I can buy the seals ?

Terraplane33

Yesterday & today

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Terraplane33

it seems this is the terraplane 1933 I saw on ebay earlier this year !

I added some other pictures page 8 on this post

Terraplane33

Cooling jacket arrived 4 hours ago, THANKS CARGRAY !!
I painted it silver high temperature and as this paint dries fast, it's already in place

cargray

GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE WATER JACKET...YOUR ENGINE IS LOOKING GREAT. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND KEEP US POSTED..RD

Terraplane33

Thanks Cargray, I got excellent information from you guys and I'm very happy, I will keep on informing you all about the next steps. We need to keep those rare and nice antique cars in a good shape in particular as there are no Terraplanes around here. I appreciate very much your help !!!
Today, the engine ran but only a few seconds as I did not put coolant yet and I've a leakage on one exhaust manifold gasket, so I will fix this soon. Great to hear the engine running again !

Terraplane33

I'm still looking for a waterpump and pulley, if someone can help me out ?
Does someone have a close picture of the original pump ?

Terraplane33

Does anyone know if this one fits ?
As far as I've seen Hudson water pumps look different...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1938-1947-Hudson-Water-Pump-NOS-/320721633840?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aac7fc230#ht_1977wt_1165

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I have a Chilton reference wich is FA-199 but it does not help very much finding one...

Thanks for your help !

dholck

BIG headlight retailer; usually found near the HET booth at meets;

Headlight Headquarters
Donald I Axelrod
35 Timson St
Lynn, MA 01902
(781) 598-0523

Hdlthqtrs@aol.com

These guys do headlight reflector re-silvering and also complete headlight restorations;

Steve Frisbie
Steve's Auto Restorations, Inc.
4440 SE 174th Avenue
Portland, Oregon 97236

(503) 665-2222
steve@realsteel.com

Terraplane33

Thanks !!
I got the info from Terraplane 8, head light lenses are underway

The only missing part to run is the original water pump, pulley and fan.

faustmb

I have two pumps with my dads engine, not sure which one is correct. The one mounted to the head has been on the engine a long time, so I assume it is original.

Terraplane33

I received 2 headlight lenses yesterday from M. Axlerod !

Terraplane33

Not much news so far, I'm still looking for an original water pump fot this Terraplane 8 1933, I found a company (EGGE) who remanufactures these pumps, does it mean make a new one or rebuild the original one ? (I do not have it...)
Any help or advice will be very much appreciated !

dholck

Most all of them want an exchange pump, at minimum. I just got mine back for a 34T - my guy used a place in Oregon. What is of interest is that I had been told that the old packing nut type water pump could not be "modernized" ...these guys rebuilt a 34 pump with the 'modern seals'...of course it does not look as original anymore, but it should work better.
Of course the 36 - 47 water pumps are much easier to get; Kostansek/Cheney were selling them off earlier in the year for $90 outright (no exchange) in the WTN, and there are 3 or 4 on EBAY right now.
Maybe some of the technical guys can say if a 36 pump can be made to work ...I wonder now, since I had been told I could not 'modernize' the 34 water pump and it turned out not to be true.

Terraplane33

Today I made new exhaust manifold gaskets out of special material. I made also the one between inlet/outlet and put everything back together. There are no more exhaust gas leakages neither coolant (came through a thread). The engine runs fine but starts to heat after 10-15 minutes idle (outside temperature +/- 40°F), I guess the pump I have does not circulate properly

(the radiator is new)

Terraplane33

Water pump issue has been definitely identified as root cause by now, the engine did have this problem already when I bought it, that's why valves & seats have been regrinded (they were in need fot it anyway). After everything has been put together, I removed the silencer as it could also be a cause of overheating but same issue as foreseen...
After this I spend many hours trying to find a water pump close enough to be adapted instead of the original one. I even found out that this one comes from a Fiat 1100 neckar and part of it is still in the Fiat cylinder head lol !
Today I found one that could fit but can't tell from what car it comes, I bought it from a person who is selling stickers, so...
Apparently there is no need for big modifications on the pump to make it fit, it might need an overhaul (?). I will come back with more news once this item is here
The car will not be 100% original but at least the long time waiting to enjoy this car might come to an end !
Of course I'm still interested to find an original pump !

Terraplane33

Dear Husdon friends !
This is what I found so far to replace my original ET8(33 water pump, I have no idea from what car it comes exactly but I only hope it will do the job once refurbished, bearings seems dead (seal most probaly also) but so far I'm happy with it..

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Today, I helped a Renault 1960 back on the road by reparing the ignition, nice trial-run afterwards ! Just great !

Terraplane33

It was impossible to disassemble this pump properly in order to rebuilt it so during the coming weeks with the help of my brother we plan to machine a new pump, custom made.
In case the casted pump project is still going on, I'm stil interested in order to get a pump more close to original !

fossiltin62

ROC means what? And where are they? I do have a single T-8 lens and a pair of 16" 4-bolt wheels. Probably some other "junk" here too.

ArkieJazz

If you bore that block out to 3", you can order new pistons from Dale Cooper

oldhudsons

fossil - ROC = Railton Owners Club

Terraplane33

Thanks Arkiejazz for the hint !
I was lucky to get a piston from M. Lester J Harris !
I also purchased a set of lenses from M. Donald Axelrod, a set of original wire wheels could be interesting of course, is there anything else ?
I need mainly a waterpump to get the car back on the road...

essexcoupe3131

Terraplane 33,
where a bout's are you located, I emailed a company yesterday about your head light glass and he has a pair of them in perfect condition gave all the sizes etc you put on the thread this is his reply

Hello Paul, we do have these in perfect New Old Stock condition. They are $179 each lens.
Shipping to New Zealand is expensive but I have had great success with the US Post office global priority mail.
Although they say it will get to you within 6-10 days, it usually takes about 15 or so. These lenses are large and convex so I have to use the largest flat rate box they have.
This cost is $61.00 and I require that you add insurance too so that will be based upon if you buy one or two. (Same cost for one or two lenses.)

if you are interested send me an email and will give you his email address

Mike

essexcoupe3131

oops should have read all the other postings, glad you got the right 1s and a cheaper price as well which is so much better for you
You are progressing really well
Mike

Terraplane33

Never mind Essexcoupe3131 and thanks for trying to help me !!

I have a question I posted under 'all makes' so I got no reply, maybe it's better just to add it here :

My rear side windows show some yellow colouring, I would like to remove the glass and order it new. I will need to remove the door panel but don't know how to remove the handles. Any help/picture or explanation will be very much appreciated !

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