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A neat indy car
  • StillOutThereStillOutThere
    Posts: 423Gold Member
    Help me understand this. This is a recreation of something that never was as no Essex and no Terraplane and no Essex-Terraplane ever ran at Indianapolis. The Chrysler (I'm almost positive) grille shell is used to evoke a Hudson look. The Terraplane 8s were on 16" wheels but Indy cars of the day were on several inch taller wheels. Knobby (dirt track) tires were never used at Indy. And the photos can not be enlarged to actually see important details. Might be a parts car IF it actually is based on a Terraplane 8 chassis but I'll bet there are serious authenticity problems even with that idea. Someone had too much time on their hands and wasted it screwing up an ET8 chassis or perhaps entire original car.
  • 1951hornethardtop
    Posts: 270Expert Adviser
    The national, I believe 1977, at the Indianpolis speedway there was a Hudson 8 racer on display in the museum. It did race in the 500 but two many years have past for me to remember any details. It did look something like this one.This is not it.
  • ski4life65ski4life65
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  • ivanz62
    Posts: 167Expert Adviser
    That one on the streets of Pittsburg is bogus too. Has a Hornet engine in it.

    Attached is the real deal that was at the Indy National in the 70's. It is now in a private museum in Europe owned by a Dutchman named Evert Louman, and it has not run--has a cracked head--since he bought it at the Gould auction near Pocono Speedway. I tried very hard to buy it from him to bring it back to life.
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  • harry54harry54
    Posts: 1,237Platinum Member
    Ivan62 that is some car. Did this car actually race at indy ? Do you know what year it raced ?
  • StillOutThereStillOutThere
    Posts: 423Gold Member
    The '32 Hudson blue Indy car Ivan posted started 18th in the '32 500 grid.

    The grid:
    http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/indy500/history/stats/startinggrids/?year=1932


    The car did not finish, placing 27th having gone out with motor problems.
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  • Spencer YarrowSpencer Yarrow
    Posts: 219Gold Member
    The '32 Hudson blue Indy car Ivan posted started 18th in the '32 500 grid.

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    Are you sure this is the actual race car? the body is different,the blue car on the right hand side of the cockpit has full bodywork the actual rece car has no bodywork and the centre nut on the wheels look different, just my opinion.

    Spencer.
  • ivanz62
    Posts: 167Expert Adviser
    Spencer,
    The blue car is what exists today--two cars like the one pictured with the Hudson road car that qualified and raced in 32 and 33 at Indy were sold to a man, Rudolph Wehr, who rebuilt them with a rotary valve supercharged engine of his own design, new grille shell, and I am sure, many other changes. His attempts to qualify failed. Attached is a photo of the 1937 car that failed to make the race. You can see the Hudson roots. How the blue car was rebuilt is unknown to me, but someone got the cars and at least the blue one was returned to early form if not correct in every detail by 1970. And there is one missing! Maybe gone. I have many photos of the blue car in the museum in the Netherlands.
    Ivan
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  • VicTor ZVicTor Z
    Posts: 496Platinum Member
    B) Bruce Brown had a race car that he took to the antique drags a few long years ago. Looked similar to these cars pictured here. :dry: