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  • hornet53hornet53
    Posts: 395Platinum Member
    I picked up a 41 Traveller Sedan a while back and finally got motivated to pull this engine out so I can assess the rest of the car. I know I need to rebuild the firewall due to major rust.
    Looking at the engine though, I am a little confused. The car is a 41, but the head says Terraplane. When did they stop badging the engines with the Terraplane name?
    The trans, while not bolted down, did have the shifter linkage and OD wires connected, so I'm assuming the trans is correct. Why would somebody swap an older engine in, and does the 41 trans bolt to the 30's engine?
    1953 Hornet sedan Twin-H
    Custom front springs, drop-blocks out back, Clifford 6-2 headers exiting out back shotgun style, Pertronix, and Flames!

    1964 Chevy C-10 Longbed, 396/TH400 lowered just enough and \"easy to touch up\" Black paint.

    2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
    Caved in quarter and fender. Bad paint. Non-True-Trac heap. But it's paid for.
  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,267Platinum Member
    What you have is a 1940 motor and transmission with overdrive, fitted with a 1936 Terraplane cylinder head.
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • hudsonsplasher1hudsonsplasher1
    Posts: 532Platinum Member
    hornet53 wrote:
    I picked up a 41 Traveller Sedan a while back and finally got motivated to pull this engine out so I can assess the rest of the car. I know I need to rebuild the firewall due to major rust.
    Looking at the engine though, I am a little confused. The car is a 41, but the head says Terraplane. When did they stop badging the engines with the Terraplane name?
    The trans, while not bolted down, did have the shifter linkage and OD wires connected, so I'm assuming the trans is correct. Why would somebody swap an older engine in, and does the 41 trans bolt to the 30's engine?

    To answer your last question. Yes, the overdrive trans will bolt up to the later 30's engine. I have one on my 39.
    Gene.
  • Marconi
    Posts: 549Platinum Member
    Your trans is a 40, and Geoff's probably right on the engine , but to make sure clean off the top of the block between the first two exhaust ports , the engine # is stamped there and the first two digits will tell what model car it came from.
  • hornet53hornet53
    Posts: 395Platinum Member
    The number on the top of the block is 412I563 as I read it. It could be 4121553 also. According to the Butler book and Marconi's info, this is a 40 super six engine.

    Do I have this correct?

    Is there any benefit to having the 36 head on there? I assume it may have been a war-time repair, you know, "use what you have", but I'm open to other ideas.

    I'm going to be putting a 262 from a 50 in this car, so i won't be using this engine. The block has been open for a looooooonnnnggggg time, so i'm pretty sure it's locked up and not worth saving.

    However, I know OD transmissions are desireable especially when complete mechanically and electrically. What should I be checking for to see if the trans is salvagable?
    1953 Hornet sedan Twin-H
    Custom front springs, drop-blocks out back, Clifford 6-2 headers exiting out back shotgun style, Pertronix, and Flames!

    1964 Chevy C-10 Longbed, 396/TH400 lowered just enough and \"easy to touch up\" Black paint.

    2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
    Caved in quarter and fender. Bad paint. Non-True-Trac heap. But it's paid for.
  • Aaron D. IL
    Posts: 1,648Platinum Member
    Would a 262 even fit in that car?
  • hornet53hornet53
    Posts: 395Platinum Member
    Seen them with 308s before. Firewall is toast so it can be rebuilt to fit any engine.
    1953 Hornet sedan Twin-H
    Custom front springs, drop-blocks out back, Clifford 6-2 headers exiting out back shotgun style, Pertronix, and Flames!

    1964 Chevy C-10 Longbed, 396/TH400 lowered just enough and \"easy to touch up\" Black paint.

    2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
    Caved in quarter and fender. Bad paint. Non-True-Trac heap. But it's paid for.
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    Here's a Hornet in Lowell Schow's (gorgeous) '41.


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    Workin Stiff
  • 53jetman53jetman
    Posts: 871Platinum Member
    This car is a 1940 Super Series - the longer wheel base, and yes the 48-56 engine will fit that chassis with no modifications. However, the Radiator would have to be moved forward to the same position as the Hudson 8, but the '41 traveler or DeLuxe Six chassis is considerably shorter than the car in this picture.

    Jerry
    Jerry
    email: HudsonJetman@mail.com
    2nd Generation Hud-Nut
    HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954
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  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    53jetman wrote:
    This car is a 1940 Super Series - the longer wheel base, and yes the 48-56 engine will fit that chassis with no modifications. However, the Radiator would have to be moved forward to the same position as the Hudson 8, but the '41 traveler or DeLuxe Six chassis is considerably shorter than the car in this picture.

    Jerry

    Thanks, Jer;
    I had originally thought his car was a '40, but I looked him up in the roster and all that's listed is a '41. He's got a couple other pre-stepdowns stashed in the woods somewhere as well.
    Workin Stiff