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Hudson Invader Special Speedster
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,801Moderator
    Okay, so have you ever wondered what would happen if you tried to stuff a WWII Hudson Invader PT-boat engine into a car? Well, wonder no more....

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    Actually, this is supposed to have been on Ebay last year, so possibly someone had already posted it to the Hudson Forum. Anyway, you can read all about it here: http://autocar-victory.blogspot.com/2010/04/1927-hudson-invader-special-speedster.html
  • Marconi
    Posts: 549Platinum Member
    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • barrysweet52barrysweet52
    Posts: 276Gold Member
    Im disappointed. I went to the site and couldnt enlarge the photos.I wonder how many others tried as well. Barry
  • Super 7Super 7
    Posts: 94Expert Adviser
    Yea another one of Gary Wales classics. He was the guy with the better than original, one and only, Grapes of Wrath Hudson.
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    That's impractical, unwieldy and ridiculous.

    I want one. :huh:
    Workin Stiff
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 4,956Moderator
    Looking through the pictures, it does not appear to be roadworthy, or in running condition.

    The engine is not connected to anything (transmission/drivetrain), and if you look at the right-rear drive, it is missing the drive chain (as opposed to the left-rear drive chain, which appears to be present in the photos).

    Regardless of that, it is a unique piece. If it can (or has) been finished, it would be a unique vehicle, to say the least...
  • BrowniepetersenBrowniepetersen
    Posts: 2,444Platinum Member
    Where is Jay Leno when you need him....?
    Brownie
  • Aaron D. IL
    Posts: 1,657Platinum Member
    That looks like a Super 6 Speedster racecar put under an enlargement ray gun. Reminds me of that car they wedged a RR Merlin airplane engine into. I'd actually like to see someone restore a WW2 Navy Invader landing craft though. I don't think any survivied.
  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,273Platinum Member
    On a completely different tack, I wonder what the average life of a Hudson Invader engine was? I mean, did they retrieve the landing craft after they had bee used, or were they just left for scrap?
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • Walt-LAWalt-LA
    Posts: 358Platinum Member
    There were a couple for sale on ebay a while back.. Walt-LA
  • cargray
    Posts: 180Expert Adviser
    I think at one time Dave Keister in Washington state had a complete landing craft. dont know if he still has it or not. Also if anyone is interested in a complete INVADER engine, "in the crate", I might have an extra one I could be talked out of very reasonable.... Geoff asked about the "life" of the Invader engine, I know a farmer in Hartly Texas that ran one on an irrigation well for 17 years with no problems..RD
  • lsfirthlsfirth
    Posts: 273Gold Member
    cargray wrote:
    I think at one time Dave Keister in Washington state had a complete landing craft. dont know if he still has it or not. Also if anyone is interested in a complete INVADER engine, "in the crate", I might have an extra one I could be talked out of very reasonable.... Geoff asked about the "life" of the Invader engine, I know a farmer in Hartly Texas that ran one on an irrigation well for 17 years with no problems..RD

    WOW....that irrigation thing is cool....that would be a really cool write-up in itself!! No wonder the Rio Grand is dry :-)
    This Hudson project is starting to scare the crud out of me!!!
  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,273Platinum Member
    I was wondering about how long they actually lived for after being fitted to the landing craft. Purely academic. I don't imagine many of them would have been salvaged or re-used, but who knows.
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,077Platinum Member
    I think it was Dave Keister who had a running Invader engine at the first Wichita National meet in 1990.

    Anyway, check out this URL to Dave's web site - http://members.tripod.com/daves_hudsons/Invader.htm - at the time he posted this site he had six Invader engines.

    I do question if any were actually used in PT boats - I've never heard of them being used. PT boats had 3 Packard 3A-2500 V-12's and were capable of around 40 knots (fast enough to get a ticket if they were on land!!)

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • TwinHTwinH
    Posts: 547Platinum Member
    My neighbor has a monster engine collection,but sadly no Hudsons...
    I did get a ride behind one of these though.


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  • BJ__TNBJ__TN
    Posts: 1,211Platinum Member
    Are those Allisons or the Packard Merlin engines, and is that a Curtis P-40 Warhawk?Either way it must have been an AWESOME experience to have a ride in it. I have always wanted to take a ride in a P-51 Mustang but due to my heart disease it Ain't gonna happen. Anyways the pics are great.
    Bob Hickson
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,495Platinum Member
    Let's see, gas is going up to $4.00/gal. this summer (or before) and this car would get about . . . 1mpg. Great. Should sell real quick.
  • cargray
    Posts: 180Expert Adviser
    I didnt mean the farmer ran the Invader constantly for 17 years. just in seasons. Alex , I thought that was Dale Matlock with the Invader at the Kansas national. Pretty neat to see it run..I sold him a complete overhaul gasket set for an Invader, still have several sets if anyone needs one. The copper headgaskets in the set is awsome, about six feet long and humongus cyl. holes. The pics of the Allisons are great, remember when Art Arfons ran them on the drag strip? The Green Monster, he called it. Cadillac made lots of parts in the Allison engines.
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,077Platinum Member
    RL Chilton wrote:
    Let's see, gas is going up to $4.00/gal. this summer (or before) and this car would get about . . . 1mpg. Great. Should sell real quick.


    Yeah, Russell - but think of it this way: It'll pass everything on the highway EXCEPT a gas station!!! :woohoo: And outrun any cop car on the interstate.

    So lets see - 475 miles Memphis to OKC (that's 475 gallons) x 2 (for round trip) = around $3800 for gas. Sure make the gas companies happy.

    But Jay Leno would love it!!!

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • TwinHTwinH
    Posts: 547Platinum Member
    BJ__TN wrote:
    Are those Allisons or the Packard Merlin engines, and is that a Curtis P-40 Warhawk?Either way it must have been an AWESOME experience to have a ride in it. I have always wanted to take a ride in a P-51 Mustang but due to my heart disease it Ain't gonna happen. Anyways the pics are great.
    Bob Hickson

    Well Bob,your ticker may not be what it once was but your eyes are sharp as ever.
    The wall of Allisons are just some of his "new it their 1940's crates" stash.
    Your ID on the P-40 is spot on,and yes it was most definitely the ride of a
    lifetime.(In the same seat that Tex Hill flew before his passing a few years back)


    Cadillac may well have supplied parts for the Allisons, There are Maytag parts
    on this twin Allison:
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  • TwinHTwinH
    Posts: 547Platinum Member
    While we're on the subject of Hudson Invader engines lets not forget they
    supplied pistons for the Wright Cyclones too...

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  • walts garage-53
    Posts: 1,488Platinum Member
    TwinH wrote:
    While we're on the subject of Hudson Invader engines lets not forget they
    supplied pistons for the Wright Cyclones too...

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    What do you mean may go to $4.00 per gallon? We are up to $4.15 for 87 octane and goes up 1 or 2 cents every day. Walt.
  • Aaron D. IL
    Posts: 1,657Platinum Member
    I don't know how you would mount a Wright cyclone engine to a car?!
  • Super 7Super 7
    Posts: 94Expert Adviser
    How do you get a Wright cyclone on the road? Like This


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  • Super 7Super 7
    Posts: 94Expert Adviser
    Like This


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