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non Hudson motor I.D??
  • paulrhd29nzpaulrhd29nz
    Posts: 45Greasemonkey
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    Hi all, I'm Making room for my next project and I was hoping that someone out there could help in I.D this old motor for me. I have had it nere 30years now and should go to some one who needs it!
    The rear jug is gone as it was conveted to a gen. plant with the generator sitting where the rear jug should be. It is a castiron block and jugs with alum.timming cover,water pump housing and oil fill indicator. All water plumbing is nickle plated but the water pump cover is stamped steal?? There is some form of a clutch right on the end of the fly wheel.
    The three mains are pressure fed/drip. The oil pump is of plunger type runing of the cam
    There is a number on the front left motor mount of A82760. Some of the bolt on parts all have numbers with the letter T in them ie. 1T27, 3T83, 5T19 ect. Some of the nuts are none standerd ie 9/16 wont fit but a 11/16 is to big.

    Any one out there have any idea???

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    hanks for looking.
    Paul
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,764Moderator
    Paul, you might want to put that up on the "What is it" forum at the Antique Automobile Club of America's website, at http://forums.aaca.org/f170/ . There are a lot more people on that, then here. And their knowledge is unbelievable!
  • ESSX28-1ESSX28-1
    Posts: 995Platinum Member
    Do let us know what you find out
    Dave Y
    New Zealand
  • paulrhd29nzpaulrhd29nz
    Posts: 45Greasemonkey
    Wow, What a great form that looks like. I joined up and will post the pics there and let you know.

    Thanks,
    Paul
  • junkcarfannjunkcarfann
    Posts: 269Gold Member
    There are lots of websites for old engines. Just google "old engines" or something like that. Here are a couple: Good luck!

    http://www.antique-engine.com/

    http://www.smokstak.com/
  • Ken U-Tx
    Posts: 1,101Platinum Member
    I'll weigh in a bit here. This motor is definitely a brass era motor (1900-1916). It is interesting to see it is of the IOE (Intake Over Exhaust) or "F-Head design. It is NOT an Essex 4 for sure. The valve train is open, and was probably oiled by periodic application of oil by oiling can. Those big plugs with the phillips head slots are plugs that allow the exhaust valves to be removed with out removing the integral cylinder-head casting from the crankcase. The intake valves had to be inserted from the bottom end of the cylinder-head casting while it was off the crankcase.
    Next, the ignition seems to be by an Eisemann magneto. Many cars imported to NZ from UK were fitted with Eisemann magneto/ distributors. Many USA makes of the teens and twenties had Eisemann ignition, like the Dodge Brothers cars for example.
    The fact that standard SAE wrenches dont' fit many of the bolt heads and nuts on this motor lends credence to my belief it may be of British manufacture, as in that case it would be fitted with Whitworth and / or BSF threaded fasteners.
    So, I guess the thing to do is to track down various British makes that existed in the brass era that built small 4 cylinder "F-head" motors and go form there. anyone have time to burn??? Kenneth
    PS: why hasn't anyone passed this on to Geoff Clark?? He may have a good idea as to what it is!
  • paulrhd29nzpaulrhd29nz
    Posts: 45Greasemonkey
    I took John B advice and posted my motor on the AACA form named "what is it" and ater an hour or so had many responces telling me that it was a 1916 REO truck motor. They confirmed this by the serial number, iron crank case. and no provision for a starter.
    So I googled 1916 REO and sure enough theres pics of the same motor.
    That site is pretty cool to check out!!

    Thanks for all that looked at this!
    Paul PS any one need half of a REO engine??