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Gary

Hello all! I'm somewhat new to the forum, and now that I have a Hudson, I feel I can join the fun! I found the old girl on a farm surrounded by more than 500 vehicles, but she was the most interesting. If I can pop out the roof, she will make a cool ride! I figured that the possible outcome outweighs the risk of purchace. The pics are of my first glance at her and after loading her on a trailer for the long trip home. I will update this topic when I have made progress of sorts, but will be slow as winter is setting in and I have another project on the go.

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Gary

Also found some more Hudson gear............. '38 Terraplane, Yummy!

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Tallent R

Looks loke a good choice for a covertible??
Roger

Gary

46HudsonPU wrote:

Congratulations! Welcome to the Forum & the wonderful world of Hudsons...

As you can see by my avatar, I've also got a '39 - a 112 Model 90 pickup, 1/2 ton...

Probably not in much better condition than yours, although the roof on mine is somewhat intact.

If you are interested, you'll find more pictures of the '39 pickup in 'myGarage' albums -

Thanks Rick! Took a quick peek at your pics and stuff, and looks like a place I should spend a bit of time on! Wish me luck on the project, especially the hunt for required parts!

Gary

Tallent R wrote:

Looks loke a good choice for a covertible??
Roger

Perhaps, but bodymen have told me if I have the money, they can do it, as the basic structure of the car is intact. Kids should stay off roofs!

Oldcar_Mechanic

An ambitious project for sure but well worth the effort.

Best of luck

Ron

Ol racer

FYI
I agree your car can be fixed because appears solid and the Hudson metal is very strong. I bought a Truck that had been pushed around a farm for Yrs denting every panel including the roof that was pinched down onto the doors by a log truck 'Jaws' tossing it into a grove of trees.Frame was twisted and bent, so Project was not for a faint of heart Person....

Because my truck was rust free with strong metal it was all straightened out. Doors close better than when new..Attached 'before & after' picture as incentive for your Project....
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Tallent R

Definitely join the Hudson club .Till I joined the club in 1998 I had no luck finding what I needed. And when I did find a Hudson item the guy thought it was gold plated !
You will find the H-E-T club one of the few where the Hot rod guys and the purist's co-exist,
Roger

Gary

"Yes, I've got a lot of photos out there. Looked a bit better before they upgraded the Forum software, and I hope that eventually things will clear up a bit in my albums - I spent weeks uploading that stuff!"

Gary - I'm sure I'll spend weeks going through it. Can't have enough research material!

"Keep us posted (with plenty of pictures), give us an idea of what your planning and what you are looking for - who knows, there may be someone out there with the parts sitting on a shelf somewhere..."

Gary - I plan on updating this thread, but it will be slow going.

"A bit of advise - Join the Hudson Club, and seriously consider joining at least one local chapter - you'll find that the WTN is worth the yearly dues (just by itself), and there is usually a bunch of experience in the local/regional area(s) that you might not be aware of..."

Gary - Thanks, I'll check it out!

"Are you planning to 'rod' the coupe? Just asking, as that's the area you've put your thread into... I am 'going both ways', as I have a couple of irons in the fire, so to speak - my '39, as well as a '46. Then, there is my 'Blue Goose' (another '46) which I consider pretty much stock - although it has a lot of 'bling', at least for a pickup..."[/quote]

Gary - I was planing to "resto mod" it. I'm trying to locate all original trim, tailights etc to give it the stock look, and updating the drive train, brakes, interior etc. to bring it to the 21st century for drivability.

Gary

Oldcar_Mechanic wrote:

An ambitious project for sure but well worth the effort.

Best of luck

Ron

Thanks Rod, I'll need all the luck I can get, and perhaps a second job!

Gary

"FYI
I agree your car can be fixed because appears solid and the Hudson metal is very strong. I bought a Truck that had been pushed around a farm for Yrs denting every panel including the roof that was pinched down onto the doors by a log truck 'Jaws' tossing it into a grove of trees.Frame was twisted and bent, so Project was not for a faint of heart Person....

Because my truck was rust free with strong metal it was all straightened out. Doors close better than when new..Attached 'before & after' picture as incentive for your Project...."

Gary - Thanks Ol racer for the inspiration! I hope I have the same success!

Gary

Tallent R wrote:

Definitely join the Hudson club .Till I joined the club in 1998 I had no luck finding what I needed. And when I did find a Hudson item the guy thought it was gold plated !
You will find the H-E-T club one of the few where the Hot rod guys and the purist's co-exist,
Roger

Gary - Thanks Roger, I'll look into it for sure!

Ol racer

FYI

Hudson Club Web Site www.hudsonclub.org Need to register initially....

New Membership contact.... Charlotte Sargent, charlottesargent@cox.net 316 838 1126

For Free colorful White Triangle Magazine (WTN) published BI Monthly email the Editor, Sam Jackson fortyqtpi@earthlink.net

As a Hudson Owner, you will never regret joining the HET Club....

Browniepetersen

I thought I might add the photo of my 39. It is a true convertible--however, it has had some radical modifications. We are in the process of bringing this car back to the condition that it was in the last time it was running. It is a model 92 Brougham that has had the upgrade to the Country Club interior trim.

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Tallent R

Is that the car that was found out in the desert a few years back? With a somewhat unclear heiritage,
Roger

Browniepetersen

Tallent R wrote:

Is that the car that was found out in the desert a few years back? With a somewhat unclear heiritage,
Roger

Not sure if this is the one that you are talking about or not. The car came from Montana with a well documented story. The folks that I got it from had owned it from the early 90's and had purchased it from Hemmings Motor News adds. After a bit of research I was able to tract the entire history of the car. It has convluted ties to the Motor Trend article from 1952 by Charles Martz. This data caused me (lust for trivia knowledge)to seek out ten cars that were inspired by the article by Martz. I call these the "Martz Cars." Fun Stuff.... This car is in the "cut, weld, design-rebuild" stage today..

Gary

Browniepetersen wrote:

I thought I might add the photo of my 39. It is a true convertible--however, it has had some radical modifications. We are in the process of bringing this car back to the condition that it was in the last time it was running. It is a model 92 Brougham that has had the upgrade to the Country Club interior trim.

I've seen this car on a website when I was looking for info on the Hudson after I first saw it! Good luck with her!

Sonny

I have been thinking of the next project. Saw you roof situation and thought this has roadster writen on it . With a carson top and tilt the A pilars back a few degrees. Saves a lot of work and money.I sat and looked at my 46 for hours more than once. It will come to you I think it did for me we will see.
Sonny

PS where is the spell check??? less faces more usable stuff/

Gary

Sonny wrote:

I have been thinking of the next project. Saw you roof situation and thought this has roadster writen on it . With a carson top and tilt the A pilars back a few degrees. Saves a lot of work and money.I sat and looked at my 46 for hours more than once. It will come to you I think it did for me we will see.
Sonny

Sonny,
Thanks for the input. I'll keep an option like that open, but I'm still going to charge ahead with the roof. By the time you add a one off Carson top and play with the pillars, I bet you would be over the cost of paying a body shop to pop it out, and I have talked to a couple that claim they can do it if I can afford the hours required. The doors still open, all the posts etc have been spared from bending forces and the rear windows JUST escaped being folded over.

Sonny

Now that I see your from Canada keeping the top might be wise.Cutting out the bent area and replacing it with new metal would be rather easy. You would be surprised how you could do this yourself.Bring it down to MT. and I will help you I had very little experiance on these things and it is getting near finish time.So it can be done. We have some great talent and help on Classic Cars,use it.

Gary

Sonny wrote:

Now that I see your from Canada keeping the top might be wise.Cutting out the bent area and replacing it with new metal would be rather easy. You would be surprised how you could do this yourself.Bring it down to MT. and I will help you I had very little experiance on these things and it is getting near finish time.So it can be done. We have some great talent and help on Classic Cars,use it.

If you live in Kalispell, I am only 5-6 hours away. Live across the border, just North of Glacier National Park. Will hook up with you if/when we go down there next. Keep in touch!

Hudson308

It will take some patient torch work, but that roof can be fixed. There were 27 dents in the roof of my stepdown sedan, and I was able to methodically message them all out. Looked like some kid had gone after it with a baseball bat. When interviewing potential body shops, ask to see "before and after" pictures of their work that might have entailed similar challenges.

Sonny

Come on down and have fun with me. I would be glad to share from my learning process and shop with you.I would like to know what your plans are and we could share solutions and make it work.

Gary

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Time for an update. A couple of weekends back, I had my Father-In-Law over to watch the Grey Cup (Canada's Super Bowl) and he wanted to pop out the roof, so that it would not have to spend another winter with a lake of ice/snow and water festering on it. So with the use of 2 hydraulic jacks, we roughed out the roof in about 3 hours. The sun started to set, so we figured we got it enough so that moisture would now run off, and we can continue fine tuning once spring comes. Took the hood and headlight pods into the shop to start playing with them. Anyone know if '38 trim rings fit on '39 headlights, as the look very similar.
Gary

51hornetA

Looks good. 39 coupes are a fine looking car when done.

Sonny

Your off to a good start on the roof. I found that I get more work done in the winter as things come up when it's warm that keep the Hudson on reduced attention.Post a picture of the roof top.From what I see you will be able to do this no problem.

Gary

I'll try to get one this weekend, as it's dark when I get home from work. Still lots of waves when viewed up close, and over the rear windows about a foot is the area about a foot square that was a lake in wet weather for 20+ years, and will need to be cut out as it is very fragile. I think it will come out nicely with some professional TLC after we have all the easy stuff done!

Gary

Sonny wrote:

Your off to a good start on the roof. I found that I get more work done in the winter as things come up when it's warm that keep the Hudson on reduced attention.Post a picture of the roof top.From what I see you will be able to do this no problem.

I'll try to get one this weekend, as it's dark when I get home from work. Still lots of waves when viewed up close, and over the rear windows about a foot is the area about a foot square that was a lake in wet weather for 20+ years, and will need to be cut out as it is very fragile. I think it will come out nicely with some professional TLC after we have all the easy stuff done!

DaveFury

Great job on the roof! Remember, steel always wants to go back to its original shape, you just need to nudge it in the correct direction.

Gary

Hi All!
Finally an update of my progress. I don't have a working shop.............for now, so living up in Canada, I have to make due with good weather on the driveway. I removed the damaged nose because I secured a nice restorable one from another HET enthusiast. I managed to trade the old one for some much needed interior parts for use on a truck that had a nose in worse condition. While I have the nose out, I will remove the Model A engine/tranny and pass it on to a Ford guy who needs it.

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Gary

Hi All!
Finally an update of my progress. I don't have a working shop.............for now, so living up in Canada, I have to make due with good weather on the driveway. I removed the damaged nose because I secured a nice restorable one from another HET enthusiast. I managed to trade the old one for some much needed interior parts for use on a truck that had a nose in worse condition. While I have the nose out, I will remove the Model A engine/tranny and pass it on to a Ford guy who needs it.

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Gary

Hi All!
Finally an update of my progress. I don't have a working shop.............for now, so living up in Canada, I have to make due with good weather on the driveway. I removed the damaged nose because I secured a nice restorable one from another HET enthusiast. I managed to trade the old one for some much needed interior parts for use on a truck that had a nose in worse condition. While I have the nose out, I will remove the Model A engine/tranny and pass it on to a Ford guy who needs it.

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Gary

Hi All!
Finally an update of my progress. I don't have a working shop.............for now, so living up in Canada, I have to make due with good weather on the driveway. I removed the damaged nose because I secured a nice restorable one from another HET enthusiast. I managed to trade the old one for some much needed interior parts for use on a truck that had a nose in worse condition. While I have the nose out, I will remove the Model A engine/tranny and pass it on to a Ford guy who needs it.

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Gary

Hi All!
Finally an update of my progress. I don't have a working shop.............for now, so living up in Canada, I have to make due with good weather on the driveway. I removed the damaged nose because I secured a nice restorable one from another HET enthusiast. I managed to trade the old one for some much needed interior parts for use on a truck that had a nose in worse condition. While I have the nose out, I will remove the Model A engine/tranny and pass it on to a Ford guy who needs it.
Gary

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Gary

Continued,
Also starting to clean out the interior to see exactly what I'm up against! From underneath, the only holes are the ones you see in front of the seat, although I do see some cracks on the trunk floor. The doors were cleaned out and to my amazement, had no rust cancer under all that dirt! Now, just need to figure how to remove that seat! I suspect I need to get the slider moving back, so I can get the front bolts out, and suspect the same for the rear of the seat. Hints would be great from those who have done this before. It appears that the interior was optioned up for this car because of the Country Club Steering Wheel, and the seats, that in my info was for the Brougham????
Gary

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Kevin C.

Gary,

That's great that you don't have any rust in the door bottoms and hopefully none inside the door. Make sure you check inside the kick panels in front as they sometimes end up with dirt and debris inside them.

Yes you need to get the slider for the front seat operable to get to the bolts that hold the seat. The four round holes in the wood frame(you can see them in the picture)will give you access to the bolts.

It looks like you have a split front seat in your coupe which would indicate that there was/is a jump seat behind the front seat.

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The jump seat in this 39 112 Coupe is behind the drivers seat.

Kevin C.

essexcoupe3131

looks like you might have good bones to start with, keep it up
Mike

Gary

Thanks Kevin! The kick panels are indeed filled with dirt and stuff, as are the areas just behind the doors up to the wheelwells. Last night I sprayed the sliders with Moovit and they are starting to free up. You are also correct about the rear jump seat, as the passenger side folds forward and there are "things" sticking out of the dirt on the floor behind the driver. Once the seat is out, she gets the royal clean job inside!

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