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In this Discussion
- 41truck May 2010
- 53jetman May 2010
- Aaron D. IL May 2010
- Browniepetersen May 2010
- dennis g May 2010
- dougson May 2010
- hudsonguy May 2010
- lsfirth May 2010
- Richie May 2010
- RL Chilton May 2010
- royer May 2010
- SuperDave May 2010
- walts garage-53 May 2010
radial tire size question
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My '54 Hornet Coupe' has 225R75-15's. Have had no clearence problems, but you've got to let the rear axle droop as much as possible in order to clear the outter frame when putting the tire/wheel assy on the back axle. The ride is indescribable - I'll never have another aHudson with bias ply tires.Jerry
email: HudsonJetman@mail.com
2nd Generation Hud-Nut
HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954
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dennis g wrote:
215/75Rx15 is the size you need if you have 5 inch rims. Anything bigger and you will have problems when changing tires. I know a fellow that had 225's on, got a flat in the middle of the night, couldn't remove the tire, had to wait 2 hours for a service truck and the guy told him you have the wrong size tire on this car. The next day 215,s were mounted. Walt.I will be buying a new set of radial tires for my Hornet soon. Is 215/75R-15 the biggest that will fit in the wheel well? -
A lot of folks run 225's on 5" rims, however, I've heard Walt's analysis on more than one occasion from several sources.
One solution is to widen the rims to 5-1/2" (which is better suited to the 225's). Another is to find a set from a stepdown convertible, which came stock with 5-1/2". Another is to use a set of 5-1/2" from a Chrysler product. They're out there if you start looking around. -
RL Chilton wrote:A lot of folks run 225's on 5" rims, however, I've heard Walt's analysis on more than one occasion from several sources.
One solution is to widen the rims to 5-1/2" (which is better suited to the 225's). Another is to find a set from a stepdown convertible, which came stock with 5-1/2". Another is to use a set of 5-1/2" from a Chrysler product. They're out there if you start looking around.
Would there be any difference between the 1950's Hornets and my '49? I could BARELY get a 205 65R15 on mine the other day just to roll it around in the shop. I'm pretty sure a 225 wouldn't fit on mine without using some grease and a shoe-horn
LeeThis Hudson project is starting to scare the crud out of me!!! -
I've run 225's before and It worked ok I just had to carry 2 jacks in the trunk.... one to get the car up and the other to manuver the rear axle and then wiggle it out between the rear frame member. Can be done...just depends on how much work you're willing to put up with when you need to do brake inspections and such.
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lsfirth wrote:Would there be any difference between the 1950's Hornets and my '49? I could BARELY get a 205 65R15 on mine the other day just to roll it around in the shop. I'm pretty sure a 225 wouldn't fit on mine without using some grease and a shoe-horn
Lee
Not to knitpick but there were no Hornets until 1951. The fit shouldn't be any different as the stepdown frames were not changed.... the axles Hudson generally were in 1951 though.... that might account for some difference (spicer/ non-spicer.). -
I wasn't very clear with my original question about largest tire size that would fit in the wheel well. My concern was getting the spare tire in the trunk well. I have 225/75R15's on another Hornet and I have to lay ithe spare flat on the trunk floor. I use the well to carry spare parts.
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I bought my set of WWW tires from Hudson Dave here on the forum. I have 225 75 R 15 size tires with stock wheels on my 50 Pacemaker Brougham. When I installed them I had to wiggle them a bit, but basically went on OK. I've not had a flat tire yet but wouldn't worry if I had to change one on the road. I carry a small floor jack and raise the car by the frame just in front of the wheel. Just my experience, yours may differ. Richie.
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I used the 225's on Chrysler rims. I did not have a fit problem. There has been a lot of discussion in previous posts about rim damage from SBR tires. The Chrysler rims are constructed in a way that the strength of the rim does not fail due to sidewall tire movement. And as has been noted... the ride is a wonder to behold......Brownie
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Make sure you have the correct shocks on the rear. I have seen some shocks that did not extend as much as the originals and that creates a clearance problem. Someone put the wrong shocks on my 49 some years ago. I had to force fit 215's . I now have plenty of room. 215's seem like a more natural fit. Most 225's I have seen make the front wheel wells seem stuffed.
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Aaron D. IL wrote:Not to knitpick but there were no Hornets until 1951. The fit shouldn't be any different as the stepdown frames were not changed.... the axles Hudson generally were in 1951 though.... that might account for some difference (spicer/ non-spicer.).
Aaron, I thought the 'P' & the 'H' were the same width? Is that not true? -
41truck wrote:What year and size of Chrysler rims are used and are tubes needed? Also will the stainless trim ring work? Thanks
Not sure about total years, but same period ('50's and up into '60's, I think) work. Trim ring works as long as your rim is 15". Tubes aren't needed for the radials. Only on Bias ply tires and some radials that are used on wire wheels require tubes (and the rubber cover for studs from the spokes). -
Aaron D. IL wrote:Not to knitpick but there were no Hornets until 1951. The fit shouldn't be any different as the stepdown frames were not changed.... the axles Hudson generally were in 1951 though.... that might account for some difference (spicer/ non-spicer.).
My '49 is a supersix. I thought the frames were the same as you mention, but that's what brought up the question.....since it didn't look like a 225 or even a 215 would fit. As someone mentioned, maybe my shocks aren't letting the axle drop as far.
Thanks,
LeeThis Hudson project is starting to scare the crud out of me!!! -
41truck wrote:Do the Chrysler rims have the tabs on them like the Hudson ones to hold on the hub cap for a 48-49 Commodore?
I picked up rims from a 1950 Chrysler Imperial and yes they did have the tabs so that I could place the "Dog Dish" or smaller hubcaps on my car.
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