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In this Discussion
- 46HudsonPU August 2009
- 51hornetA August 2009
- 53jetman August 2009
- Browniepetersen August 2009
- busybee August 2009
- essexcoupe3131 August 2009
- Geoff C., N.Z. August 2009
- Kevin C. August 2009
- oldhudsons August 2009
- PaulButler August 2009
- Ric West IN August 2009
- RL Chilton August 2009
Need: Photos of a 1938 Terraplane Dashboard
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Am looking for some photos of an original or restored 1938 Terraplane dashboard. Mainly need photos of the center section of the dashboard, but could use all - left, center and right.
The photos will be used as the basis for obtaining dashboard pieces & restoration work.
Please email me photos - click on 'Rick', below.
Thank you in advance! -
46HudsonPU wrote:Am looking for some photos of an original or restored 1938 Terraplane dashboard. Mainly need photos of the center section of the dashboard, but could use all - left, center and right.
The photos will be used as the basis for obtaining dashboard pieces & restoration work.
Rick
You need to find pics of the dashboard of a 1938 112!
Kevin C. -
Kevin C. wrote:
Don't know, not sure what dashboard they put into the '39 Hudson pickups - you're probably right...Rick
You need to find pics of the dashboard of a 1938 112!
Kevin C.
From what I have been told, Hudson put '38 dashboards into the '39 Hudson commercial vehicles - which is why I am looking for some reference pictures.
If anyone can provide ANY pictures of a '38 Hudson dashboard (Terraplane or Hudson), they would be appreciated! -
Rick - I think I have pics of a '38 H-T panel delivery dash, not sure if can find ones of '39 BB PU I restored.
Will post here if successful. -
oldhudsons wrote:
Hi Pete,Rick - I think I have pics of a '38 H-T panel delivery dash, not sure if can find ones of '39 BB PU I restored.
Will post here if successful.
You will probably need to send them directly to me. It looks as if most picture posting utilities are not working on the forum, at least at the moment. -
am doing so ASAP by forwarding you an e-mail I sent myself with 3 pics of the forementioned '38 H-T panel (you'll notice it has EH & I believe a glove box clock - what a "hoot" for a commercial vehicle to have been equipped that way)
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here Rick go to this site has a really good shot of a 38 dash
dashhttp://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/103141,11055,0,0/photo.aspx
Had just sent this to another new Member Rob
Mike -
Rick - you should have it by now; perhaps you can "zero in" on the middle/dash pic.
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essexcoupe3131 wrote:here Rick go to this site has a really good shot of a 38 dash
dash
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/103141,11055,0,0/photo.aspx
Had just sent this to another new Member Rob
Mike
Nice dash - However it doesn't look anything like the simple dash in my '39 Model 90. My guess is that the the dashboards from the less expensive models from '38 were probably used for the '39 commercial series...
The picture of my '39 Hudson Model 90 pickup's dashboard is shown below. Both the speedometer and clock are in surprisingly decent condition, however the center console is missing just about everything. Was looking Kevin's '39 112 dashboard recently - the center console isn't the same as mine - so I am on a 'hunt' for pictures and parts (if anyone has or knows of parts)...
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Rick - the top picture is of a 1936 dash to help eliminate some of the confusion. I've been looking thru some of my brochiers, but have not come up with a good picture of the dash in the 1938 or 1939 112 series cars or tgrucks.
Jerry
53jetmanJerry
email: HudsonJetman@mail.com
2nd Generation Hud-Nut
HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954
HET Registrar of all Hudson Jets -
oldhudsons wrote:
Got them, thanks!Rick - you should have it by now; perhaps you can "zero in" on the middle/dash pic.
You're right, they're a hoot! Can't imagine Hudson putting an electric hand in a commercial series. Looks like it has a clock in the glove compartment door (as does my '39), as well as what appears to be an ash tray & cigarette lighter (?).
It is a shame to see that panel truck in such bad condition. Heard the story on this one - Maybe someday, the owner will relent and allow someone to buy & restore it - if not, maybe after they've 'gone their way', someone will acquire it and give it the home it deserves.
Here's a picture of that '39 112 Commercial Panel Delivery with all the bullet holes...
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The '30 - '39 Master Parts catalog has B & W photos of the '38 and '39 dash panels, if that is any help. i could scan and email to you if you give m your email address.
Geoff.If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging. -
Pete-
That is a beautiful dash. What happened to that truck? Also, is that a glovebox on the left-hand side? -
Rick-
Now that other dash in the unrestored panel truck is like yours, isn't it? Also, are we looking at two different trucks? The one in the field is the one where the guy won't let it go, right? What's the story on the one in the carport? -
The truck with the bullet holes: How sad is that? Someone used that poor truck for target practice, and it looks as though they were using an automatic, no less! I look at that, and think, " . . . man, that's a LOT of bodywork, right there". Guess I've been doing too much of that, lately.
Those Panels sure are good-looking trucks when fixed up, though. Really had some nice lines. -
RL Chilton wrote:
Pictures of the '38 Panel were provided by Pete (oldhudsons) - The pictures of the dash in those photos are quite a bit different than mine - it appears to have dash components from a '37...Rick-
Now that other dash in the unrestored panel truck is like yours, isn't it? Also, are we looking at two different trucks? The one in the field is the one where the guy won't let it go, right? What's the story on the one in the carport?
The picture of the '39 Hudson 112 Commercial Panel Delivery came directly from the Southern California Chapter website, however I think the picture was actually taken at the 2008 National.
Still looking for pictures of a dash that could be the same or similiar to mine - and dash pieces & parts, if anyone has them! -
Opps, just goggled it and thats what came up, they called it a 38 hudson
Mike -
Here is a shot of a 39 112 coupe dash
www.hudsonmotorcar.org -
You can almost make out the dash in this 38 ad.
www.hudsonmotorcar.org -
Russell - that '38 panel delivery is in the Roster. As you can tell from the right year wheel, it's been there for mucho years and it will remain there until either the owner dies or the man on whose land it's been parked all these years, dies. There have been repeated offers & attempts to buy it all to no avail, it's one of those, "oh, I'll get to it one of these days" jobs, which will never occur.
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51hornetA wrote:
Actually, this one looks real close.Here is a shot of a 39 112 coupe dash
Here's mine again, as a comparison - Now I am a bit more confused... Could the Hudson above be a 112 utility coupe?
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I have a mint condition instrument cluster for a 112 if anyone needs one I can publish a photo:D:D I was going to use it in the roadster above but then I found a very nice set of 39 Country Club stuff. If anyone wants me to put a photo of the 112 or the Country club on the site let me know and I will take on and post it.Brownie
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Browniepetersen wrote:
Hi Brownie - I could use a nice, high quality photo of the 112 instrument cluster you have, if you would send me one (click on 'Rick', below).I have a mint condition instrument cluster for a 112 if anyone needs one I can publish a photo:D:D I was going to use it in the roadster above but then I found a very nice set of 39 Country Club stuff. If anyone wants me to put a photo of the 112 or the Country club on the site let me know and I will take on and post it.
If it is similiar to what I need for my truck (and you won't need or use it), I would be interested in it... -
Hi Rick,
Ric, your ex Terraplane advisor heere. I don't see why you aare confused. The 112 coupe dash seems identical to yours. You are missing the "idiot lights, ing. switch ,Radio blanking plate and choke,lighting switch. Otherwise dashes are identical.
Should be able to find this stuff. I will look through my stuff. May have radio blank plate.
Have fun in your quests.
Ric -
Hi Brownie,
I'd be interested in seeing a picture of your instrument cluster as well.
Thanks,
Paul -
Ric, West IN wrote:
Hi Ric,Hi Rick,
Ric, your ex Terraplane advisor heere. I don't see why you aare confused. The 112 coupe dash seems identical to yours. You are missing the "idiot lights, ing. switch ,Radio blanking plate and choke,lighting switch. Otherwise dashes are identical.
Should be able to find this stuff. I will look through my stuff. May have radio blank plate.
Have fun in your quests.
Ric
I was told that the commercial series used the '38 Hudson/terraplane dashboard, however from what I am seeing, that does not appear to be the case (at least not 100% of the time). I appreciate anything you can come up with -
Regards,
Rick -
Follow up and update on this: I did a bit of internet searching (Google), and research last night. The 'dash' that appears to be the closest to my '39 Hudson 112 Model 90 pickup dashboard is the 1938 Hudson 112 dashboard... (Not the 1938 Terraplane models, or the high-end Hudson Models...).
Am looking for pictures of a nice original or restored example. Also, if anyone has parts of the center section of a 1938 Hudson 112 dashboard for sale (in good condition), please let me know.
46HudsonPU wrote:Actually, this one looks real close.
Here's mine again, as a comparison - Now I am a bit more confused... Could the Hudson above be a 112 utility coupe?
This actually appears to be a 1938 Hudson 112 Dash, at least according to the documentation I have seen thus far...
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Rick - The bottom picture is the one you are looking for! It was a repeat of the 1938 Hudson 112 dash just for the trucks.
Jerry
53jetmanJerry
email: HudsonJetman@mail.com
2nd Generation Hud-Nut
HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954
HET Registrar of all Hudson Jets -
53jetman wrote:
Yep, understood - Thanks! I would actually like some high-quality photos of a nice original or restored dash, so I can see detail. The picture(s) above pinpoint the dash photos and parts I am looking for.Rick - The bottom picture is the one you are looking for! It was a repeat of the 1938 Hudson 112 dash just for the trucks.
Jerry
53jetman
BTW: The '39 Hudson Owner Manual does not even have a picture of the dash for my truck. Weren't many commercial vehicles, so... -
Rick
Hudson was not alone in doing this kind of thing. Ford, I know for sure was a proponent of using "last year's parts for this year's truck" practices. At least from the mid-20's up until WWII.
Left over parts from one year was "used up" on the commercial vehicles for the next year, as much as possible. It would be absolutely no surprise if you came across a truck identical to yours, but had a terraplane dash in it, or a different seat, or different door handles, or you name it, really. You get the idea. Older Commercial vehicles have always lacked in consistency of parts, even from one model and vehicle of the same year to another.
From an economic standpoint of the manufacturer, it's better to "use up" some of those parts, rather than relegate them to the parts stash, or heaven forbid, the furnace. -
RL Chilton wrote:
Understood, and no complaints here - Just trying to get an idea as to what was originally on the truck, what I need, and obtain it.Rick
Hudson was not alone in doing this kind of thing. Ford, I know for sure was a proponent of using "last year's parts for this year's truck" practices. At least from the mid-20's up until WWII.
Left over parts from one year was "used up" on the commercial vehicles for the next year, as much as possible. It would be absolutely no surprise if you came across a truck identical to yours, but had a terraplane dash in it, or a different seat, or different door handles, or you name it, really. You get the idea. Older Commercial vehicles have always lacked in consistency of parts, even from one model and vehicle of the same year to another.
From an economic standpoint of the manufacturer, it's better to "use up" some of those parts, rather than relegate them to the parts stash, or heaven forbid, the furnace.
For quite some time I had been looking for dash pieces (and already obtained some) from a '39 Hudson 112, but now it appears that I am looking for totally different pieces for the center section.
In the center of the dash, the left and right holes appear to be idiot lights for generator & temp, while the rectangular center hole (and he two holes to each side of it) appear to be for a radio/radio blank (?)...
Near the bottom lip is what appears to be the choke, on/off key and headlight switch & are pretty much standard between the 1938-1939 years. -
I have a parts group book from 1938, has pictures of dashes. would you like a fax?
Brent -
busybee wrote:
Sorry Brent, I don't have access to a FAX. I lost all access to this type of thing when my job was terminated some months ago, and do not have it at home.I have a parts group book from 1938, has pictures of dashes. would you like a fax?
Brent
If you could scan them into some type of file format and send them, it sure would be appreciated! (i.e., faxing through computer faxing devices usually produces .gif or .tif files, which could be sent via email); or office multimedia devices usually have that capability.
