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Hudson-Stutz
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,796Moderator
    If this is being sold as a "fun car" that was put together from all sorts of parts over the years, that's fine. Maybe it was originally constructed in 1931, but it looks to me like a number of things have been added to it over the years. In 1931, for example, no customizer in his right mind was going to put retro headlights on it (as appear in the photos), all modifications would have been strictly up-to-date circa 1931. The padded dash and ignition lock look like they were added later, and of course Hudson didn't have a "Power Dome" head in 1931.



    So, again, if you're looking for a "fun car" this might fit the bill. But if you're buying it as an authentic 1931 custom, I'd ask for some proof!
  • 66patrick6666patrick66
    Posts: 1,831Platinum Member
    Definitely a '37 or later 212, IMO. This thing was not constructed in 1931 with that engine, for sure. It would make a really cool Sunday driver!
    "The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
    And whether pigs have wings..."
  • Aaron D. IL
    Posts: 1,657Platinum Member
    Maybe just cobled together but could probably fool a lot of people with that patina. Cycle-fendered Stutz.
  • Uncle JoshUncle Josh
    Posts: 1,863Platinum Member
    The engine is earlier than 36 with the shaped head leading to the water pump
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    Jon B wrote:
    If this is being sold as a "fun car" that was put together from all sorts of parts over the years, that's fine. Maybe it was originally constructed in 1931, but it looks to me like a number of things have been added to it over the years. In 1931, for example, no customizer in his right mind was going to put retro headlights on it (as appear in the photos), all modifications would have been strictly up-to-date circa 1931. The padded dash and ignition lock look like they were added later, and of course Hudson didn't have a "Power Dome" head in 1931.



    So, again, if you're looking for a "fun car" this might fit the bill. But if you're buying it as an authentic 1931 custom, I'd ask for some proof!
    Anybody have any idea what kind of frame/running gear this "hudson-stutz" is built on. Cool looking car!
  • PhilsrPhilsr
    Posts: 10Hitchhiker
    I bought this speedster on e-bay, and after new Bendix drive, freeing stuck rings,unsticking clutch,relaceing gas tank and carb, it runs to 55 very well. Entered the Awks fechst show as an antique and it was swamped by attendees , who had many questions. Some of these are still unanswered, such as What frame,front and rear axle (are they early Hudson or Essex?)

    I rebuilt the brakes which use all Chrysler wheel, master,drum, and shoe parts. The 1933 212 Terraplane engine has the deep rumble of an old Chris-Craft This car was owned py a Phila restaurant owner before being purchased by the Norristown antique dealer, Stephen C. Arena in 1975

    Any information regarding this car will really help me.

    Thanks, Philsr
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  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,477Platinum Member
    Sorry, Phil can't offer any information for you, but WOW! What a cool little car! The step between the cowl and the hood is pretty funky, but if it was smoothed out, the body lines would flow a lot better. And what a great candidate for a boat-tail speedster! The back end almost begs for a teardrop.



    Very, very cool. :cool:I like it. Please keep us abreast of any info developments and your plans for her. Looks like a really fun project.
  • mdwhit
    Posts: 125Expert Adviser
    46HudsonPU wrote:
    Ebay has removed the listing...



    Rick, when you state that Ebay has removed the listing, are you refering to the original link that Ron Prida put on this thread? The reason why I ask is that I believe this thread is pretty old (at least the first part is). My CIC newsletter for June mentions that Ron succumbed to cancer on Mother's Day this year. It always makes me feel sad when I see one of his threads re-appear. He was a prolific contributor to this form and also, a very likeable guy. Just thought I would reply so everyone would know.

    Michael
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 4,267Moderator
    mdwhit wrote:
    Rick, when you state that Ebay has removed the listing, are you refering to the original link that Ron Prida put on this thread? The reason why I ask is that I believe this thread is pretty old (at least the first part is). My CIC newsletter for June mentions that Ron succumbed to cancer on Mother's Day this year. It always makes me feel sad when I see one of his threads re-appear. He was a prolific contributor to this form and also, a very likeable guy. Just thought I would reply so everyone would know.

    Michael
    Thank you for letting me know. I didn't pay any attention to the dates, just noticed the latest comments, and went back to look at the listing. Sorry to hear about Ron P, I never met him, but always enjoyed his posts & threads.
  • mdwhit
    Posts: 125Expert Adviser
    46HudsonPU wrote:
    Thank you for letting me know. I didn't pay any attention to the dates, just noticed the latest comments, and went back to look at the listing. Sorry to hear about Ron P, I never met him, but always enjoyed his posts & threads.



    I hope I did not sound critical. Certainly the info in the thread is still pertinate and still generates interest. I just wanted to let people know about Ron.
  • PhilsrPhilsr
    Posts: 10Hitchhiker
    Since my last post i have made a few changes to the Hudson-Stutz. Removed and resoldered the radiator with new hoses. (drove it for 2 years with the original coolant still in, wasnt broke So.....) Replaced cork clutch plate and faced fly wheel and pressure plate and t.o. brg. Now the right rear wheel will spin if I am not cautious.:woohoo: Dropped the pan on the 1933 212 and other than an eigth inch of sludge interior parts were all very clean. I figure it must have had detergent oil in it. By the way the Powerdome head is a Hudson item. The frame and axles and steering are pre 32 Dodge and the triple tailight and fuel tank were Pierce Arrow parts. This fuel tank was too rusty to save so installed a smaller tank until I can install the large round brass tank I found. It is a really versatile ride that I can show at antique or hot rod events.
    If any one can ID it or provide any history i would appreciate.
  • PhilsrPhilsr
    Posts: 10Hitchhiker
    Guys, Here are some recent shots of the Hudson-Stutz, as well well as my 29 Whippet Lakes modified.
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  • PhilsrPhilsr
    Posts: 10Hitchhiker
    More of the above.
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  • Lee ODellLee ODell
    Posts: 1,839Platinum Member
    That is a cool car. Lee