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In this Discussion
- 46HudsonPU July 2009
- 50C8DAN July 2009
- Aaron D. IL July 2009
- Billy K.TN. July 2009
- handnhalfswordaolcom October 2012
- hudsontech October 2012
- Jim Kilday July 2009
- Lee ODell July 2009
- lostmind October 2012
- oldhudsons October 2012
- PAULARGETYPE July 2009
- ralpie July 2009
- Uncle Josh July 2009
Have you seen a Hudson pickup with a H8?
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I few years ago at the Hershey car coral there was a '46 pickup with a H8 installed. It was POC condition, the guy wanted a fortune, but it ran great. I always thought if I bought a pickup I would like it 308 powered and I have seen quite a few, but how many out there have H8s installed. Just curious how many you have seen, if any? I think it would be kind of different, especially with an Edmunds 2x2 intake, finned head and Commodore trim.
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Dan: Charlie Harris in Nebraska has a 46 Hudson Pickup with a Hudson 8 in the truck. The same truck has been powered with original engine as well as a 308 with Twin H. Contact him via the registry... he is very knowledgeable and has owned that truck for many years.
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Was there ever a Hudson pickup truck with an 8-cylinder engine that was factory original?
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50C8DAN wrote:
That is my understanding as well. The 'eight' was initially a popular Hudson swap, but has been far outdistanced by the 308 'Twin H' when it became available...I believe all of the pickups came with a 212 splasher 6, no 8 was ever offered. -
50C8DAN wrote:I few years ago at the Hershey car coral there was a '46 pickup with a H8 installed. It was POC condition, the guy wanted a fortune, but it ran great. I always thought if I bought a pickup I would like it 308 powered and I have seen quite a few, but how many out there have H8s installed. Just curious how many you have seen, if any? I think it would be kind of different, especially with an Edmunds 2x2 intake, finned head and Commodore trim.
Dan, about 1960 my dad bought 2 hudson pu's, (46 or 47?). One had an 8 and the other was a 6. He shortly sold the one with the eight. As I remember it ran pretty good compared to the 40 Ply I had in high school at the time. The pu 6 he keeped. Dad burned up the orginal motor. He put in a falcon 6, burned up that one, put in a Nash Ambassador 6, burned that one up. Final engine was a 57 Olds V8 and automatic. Also, he installed the power steering from the 57 Olds and a ford 9 inch rear end and camper shell.
He sold it in early 1970's. I often wondered what happened to it. Lee -
I'm putting a Hudson 8 in my 46. Don't have a pic of it in there I guess but it has a 49 overdrive and the governor misses the frame by a good half inch.
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A member in WI had a '46-'47 with a camper top in the bed....not sure it's the same truck tho.
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Lee O'Dell wrote:Aaron, I still have the vin number somewhere. I'll post it as soon as I can dig it out. Lee
Aaron, the vin number is 3825906 which makes it a 46. I always thought it was a 47 until I showed the sale paper to Bill Albright. That would be exciting to locate it. If you get a chance would you check it out for me. It's interesting that when I was checking the roster, a few years ago, to see if it was listed, I found there are many 46 and 47 pickups listed in the roster with no vin numbers. Also, some pickups are listed in the roster as 46 with 47 vin's, and some 47's are listed with 46 vin numbers. At that time it was not listed in the roster. Might get lucky one day to locate it. Lee -
I went through the 2005-07 roster correcting a lot of those mistakes and came up with around 400 ish '46 - '47 PU's in the club. That's a good survival rate stacked against the original production figures. I'll look into that camper PU when I get the chance.
The only way a PU would have a Hudson straight 8 is if it was on a Commodore/Super 8 Chassis or if the mounts were modified. -
I seem to remember a 46 or 47 pickup, think it might have been NJ, with the top half of a VW micro-bus on the back as a shell. Looked pretty good.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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Lee O'Dell wrote:Aaron, the vin number is 3825906 which makes it a 46. I always thought it was a 47 until I showed the sale paper to Bill Albright. That would be exciting to locate it. If you get a chance would you check it out for me. It's interesting that when I was checking the roster, a few years ago, to see if it was listed, I found there are many 46 and 47 pickups listed in the roster with no vin numbers. Also, some pickups are listed in the roster as 46 with 47 vin's, and some 47's are listed with 46 vin numbers. At that time it was not listed in the roster. Might get lucky one day to locate it. Lee
Correction on the vin number. It should read 5825906. Lee -
Lee O'Dell wrote:
Actually, you were right the first time... '46 Hudson Pickup serial numbers start with "38..." .Correction on the vin number. It should read 5825906. Lee -
Lee O'Dell wrote:
Np Lee - I actually walked downstairs into my workshop, to verify it on my tan '46 - currently undergoing rebuild. I believe the '46 HPU is deemed to be a 'Model 58' (?), which is also a bit confusing..Thanks Rick, the way Dad had it written I was not sure if it was a 3 or a 5. Lee -
Aaron D. IL wrote:I went through the 2005-07 roster correcting a lot of those mistakes and came up with around 400 ish '46 - '47 PU's in the club. That's a good survival rate stacked against the original production figures. I'll look into that camper PU when I get the chance.
The only way a PU would have a Hudson straight 8 is if it was on a Commodore/Super 8 Chassis or if the mounts were modified.
The Hudson pickup is built on the Pickup chassis which is longer than the 6 and 8 cyl chassis. The motor support brackets are cut off. and I think the 8 cyl uses the holes for the 6 cylinder radiator and the radiator fits right behind the cross braces in front of the radiator. The 8 cyl radiator has 2 lugs that bolt to 2 brackets welded near the center of the front cross member. The pickup also uses some heavier parts from the 8 cyl chassis over the 6 chassis such as brakes and some other stuff. When I built my 47 a couple of years ago I would have changed it to an 8 if i had the 8. That was done several times back in the days gone by. May be wrong about some of this stuff but they sure were not built on the C or S 8 chassis. -
Billy K.TN. wrote:
I believe you are correct concerning how the 8 is installed, after the fact, in the pickup chassis.The Hudson pickup is built on the Pickup chassis which is longer than the 6 and 8 cyl chassis. The motor support brackets are cut off. and I think the 8 cyl uses the holes for the 6 cylinder radiator and the radiator fits right behind the cross braces in front of the radiator. The 8 cyl radiator has 2 lugs that bolt to 2 brackets welded near the center of the front cross member. The pickup also uses some heavier parts from the 8 cyl chassis over the 6 chassis such as brakes and some other stuff. When I built my 47 a couple of years ago I would have changed it to an 8 if i had the 8. That was done several times back in the days gone by. May be wrong about some of this stuff but they sure were not built on the C or S 8 chassis.
Also, the pickups did use the larger clutch and brakes from the 8 cyl cars as well (more heavy duty, for the 'commercial' or utility purpose of the pickups...).
However, there are some Hudson cars that use the 128" WB chassis (Series 18 & 28), although those chassis were probably not strengthened (?), as was when used for the pickup chassis (Series 58 & 178).
The dimensions for the various chassis/frame can be found on page #282 of the Hudson Mechanical Procedure Manual, Car Year Models 1942 to 1947 Incl. -
There was a 128' WB car before the war but not after. Wonder if it's the same chassis.
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Aaron D. IL wrote:There was a 128' WB car before the war but not after. Wonder if it's the same chassis.
IMHO it is the same chassis, with some minor changes to accomodate the application (car or truck). From the description, it appears that the 128" wheelbase was for the top of the line Commodore Custom Eight Sedans with the Hudson 8 engine...
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For 1941, there were two Commodore Custom Eight Sedans on a new 128" wheelbase. According to the Butler Book, this was a 'Series 17', contrary to the information in the Mechanical Procedure manual, which indicates the Series as '18';
For 1942, the 128" wheelbase was on a single model, that of the Commodore Custom Eight 4-Door Sedan with a Series 27 designation (this conflicts with the Mechanical Procedure Manual, which indicates the Series as '28'...). -
My good friend jack heisler who has passed on had a 41 hudson truck that he installed a hudson 8 in his son jackie still owns the truck and it is not for sale
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I've always liked the look of Hudson pickups but have never sat in one and have no idea what the leg room is like. Would a Hudson be a good choice for a 6'3" 280 pound buy?
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hand - absolutely not which is why some have put seats from more modern vehicles in them as have thinner back + can be lowered to give more leg room & room between stomach & steering wheel.
I had a '46-7 PU which I made what I considered to be the optimum roadable PU: NOS '55-6 Hornet engine (via Dave Bullock), NOS late model o.d. (from dealership in Long Beach, Cal.), NOS '46-7 8 radiator (from dealership in Louisville, Ky.) and 8 steering box from parts car. Had a custom camper built for it in Van Nuys, Cal. & wife & I drove it from Calif. to National Meet in Indianapolis. Would cruise well at any reasonable speed but used a lot of gas. In very hot weather really got hot in the cab due to poor ventilation (wife got heat stroke in Needles, Calif. on way back). Not too long after return sold it to Bill Albright, don't know where it is now, was a light brown. -
46HudsonPU posted "There was a 128' WB car before the war but not after. Wonder if it's the same chassis."
I suspect that Hudson, like everybody else, was rushing to get back into car production so they went to a common wheelbase for all four series. As for the 128" wheel base prior to 1946 I'm almost willing to bet they had a bunch of chassis setups (the 1941-1942 Big Boy commercial models were on the 128" wb) left over when they shut down car production for war production. It would make sense in that Hudson was a great one for finding a use for just about anything they had to hand.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN
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Laurel Hanson , a past HET president had a Hudson pick up with an 8 cyl.
He sold to Bob Coop ,in Ohio.His widow sold it about 10yrs ago and the new owner had it restored.Painted all black instead of the orange and black that it was.
Dave Bullock had a VW camper shell on his pick up . looked custom made.About 1972?
