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  • RichieRichie
    Posts: 904Platinum Member
    I just need to vent a bit, sorry in advance. Being retired I always go out for coffee and a biscuit in the morning, well when I got home the back door was smashed in and they made off with our 40" flat screen TV a laptop, wifes jewelery and my stash of money in my dresser drawer. They had to know my routine and how much time they had, wish I came home a bit earlier !! They didn't get into the extra garage where the Hudsons are. We live in a culdersac and our area has never had this kind of problem before. I don't have a gun, but will buy one tomorrow. This really burns me up !! I guess this kind of thing will be on the increase with the economy in the dump. I feel a little bit better now, Richie.
  • J SpencerJ Spencer
    Posts: 367Gold Member
    Richie, so sorry to hear of your break in. What a bummer! some years ago I too had my house burglarized. Got some jewery, - not expensive just family keepsakes. Also got some cash from my son's just cashed paycheck. Most likely looking for drug money. They got in through a basement window at the back of the house that only a kid could get through. In fact the police felt that is what happened and the kid came upstairs and unlocked the door. Foot prints on the drier below the window were from a very small foot.



    Also had my garage broken into once, got my paint guns, buffer and a couple of air tools. Thankfully they didn't do anything to my 51 Pacemaker.



    Hope whoever did this to you gets caught.



    Jim Spencer
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    Sorry to hear that, man.

    Sucks!

    It's the way this world is. Wouldn't life be as it should if you never, EVER had to worry about the intentions of the guy next to ya? Those who know me well know I'm looking forward to a world "next time around" where none of that's gonna happen anymore. I wanna be a chariot maker for The King.

    Song of Solomon 3:9,10
    Workin Stiff
  • BJ__TNBJ__TN
    Posts: 1,211Platinum Member
    Ritchie, Sorry that this happened to you. I used to have a 357 magnum, but got rid of it after I thought about it for a while. Unless you carry it with you everywhere you go, they will steal it too if and when they break in. Then you have a thief with a gun out there. Or worse, If you were to come home while they are still there, it could be used against you. I keep 3 dogs now, a grumpy old male and two females.
    Don't get me wrong, I believe in the right to own guns and will never change my mind about that. I think that a person has the right to protect what is theirs. Unfortunately, if you shoot someone that is robbing your house, You will go to jail! Sad but True.......
    Bob
  • LanceBLanceB
    Posts: 674Platinum Member
    So sorry to hear about that. And I'm afraid that there is going to be a lot more with how everything has been going lately. Another thing that does not help is this Cash For Gold company and others like it. Gives theives an easy place to dump stolen items!
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,042Platinum Member
    Buy a shotgun - can't miss with that. That said, make sure the sucker breaking in ain't breathing - you could get sued blind, in this day and age.



    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • Dave53-7C
    Posts: 2,523Platinum Member
    Richie,



    So sorry to hear about your burglary. In addition to the good ideas already presented, I'll contribute as best I can. More often than not, it's the feeling of having your safe haven violated that is more devastating than the loss of person property and cash. At least you can take solice in the fact that nobody was injured or killed. Where I live, I could easily, readily and legally kill an intruder who I felt was a danger to my life or that of my family. Although I'd never advocate law abiding citizens giving up their arms, I suggest you look into a safe and a security system (later will get you a discount on homeowner's insurance) before purchasing a firearm. Besides, a firearm would have been of no use since you were not present when the crime occured. Try leaving lights and radio/TV on when you go away to give the impression that someone is home. After all, and since theft is usually a crime of easy opportunity, making yourself less of a target should net the desired results.
  • nhp1127nhp1127
    Posts: 2,275Platinum Member
    I can tell you from personal experience.... Just wait until a major disaster or riots happen like they did in Los Angeles. You'll be happy you have a gun. Just make sure you are trained with it and know when you will use it.
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Sorry Richie:

    Remember that if they scored well, they may return later for other wanted items or wait till you have replaced something of value and repeat the offense. There are supposed to be books for sale to help you hide your valuables. Good luck, Bob (cant imagine trying to hide an air compressor)
  • 7XPacemaker
    Posts: 332Platinum Member
    Sounds like the prescription that you need is a Taurus "JUDGE". They are great for home protection.
  • hoosiercrosley
    Posts: 310Gold Member
    Get you a pit bull, feed him raw hamburger eveyday and feed him steriods, thet might get in but I bet they wouldn't get out! LOL! Sorry to hear about it, I agree it would make me so mad I would smack my grandma!



    Barry Smedley

    53' Super Jet

    and a bunch of Crosley's
  • HudzillaHudzilla
    Posts: 1,285Platinum Member
    Richie, was not good news about your house getting robbed. Might be a time to get a LARGE dog. Sorry to hear about your things getting carried off Richie.
  • RichieRichie
    Posts: 904Platinum Member
    Thanks for all the comments guys. It will bother me for a long time, every time I go out I will wonder is the house safe and for how long. I hadn't used the alarm system in the past when I went to the store or for coffee. Just didn't seem necessary for the short time I was away. Now I guess I need it on every time I leave the house. They will be back I'm sure. They passed up four computers including a brand new Dell and the downstairs 54' flat screen TV. Someone must have been watching me and when I started for home the alerted the nice people that were doing the stealing. Enough said, I apologize, time to move on and talk Hudsons. Richie.
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,042Platinum Member
    Richie wrote:
    Thanks for all the comments guys. It will bother me for a long time, every time I go out I will wonder is the house safe and for how long. I hadn't used the alarm system in the past when I went to the store or for coffee. Just didn't seem necessary for the short time I was away. Now I guess I need it on every time I leave the house. They will be back I'm sure. They passed up four computers including a brand new Dell and the downstairs 54' flat screen TV. Someone must have been watching me and when I started for home the alerted the nice people that were doing the stealing. Enough said, I apologize, time to move on and talk Hudsons. Richie.



    Just one final note - there used to be a TV show, "It Takes A Thief". It was show where two fellows, with your permission, broke into your home. One of the fellows would go to the homeowner and get their permission. The people from the show would then rig the house with camera's. Owners knew there would be a break-in, just not when.



    When the day came the other fellow would break into the house and proceed to clean it out, while the first fellow watched TV monitors from a van parked nearby.



    Here's the point - the burglar would clean out a house in less than 15 min. And that was a big house. It really made you stop and think. After the break-in when the home owners came back they would go thru the house, then watch the videos in the van. The "burgler" would then bring everything back, they would do a clip showing what he'd taken (everything from cash to cars and in between) and then the house would have an alarm system installed, courtesy of the show.



    And if you think having a dog is a deterrent, think again. Unless the dog is a trained attack dog he'll probably be so happy to see somebody , after being left alone most of the day, he'll not only help them get into the house, but show them all the goodies and help them carry the loot out of the house.



    And if you think, oh, why bother - I don't have much worth stealing - think again. Bank statements and credit cards being stolen can ruin your whole day.







    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,764Moderator
    I hope you won't take offense, but I'm gonna move this to the Discussions section 'cause, as you say, it's a bit off-topic. It is truly heartbreaking to be burgled, and it kind of pulls the rug out from under one's sense of well-being. The realization that some stranger has simply sashayed into your private domain and walked off with whatever he wanted to, would leave every one of us with the urge to kill. Don't entirely give up hope -- this may never happen again, and it is not out of the realm of possibility that these guys may be apprehended, and you may get your property back.
  • TOM-WA-TOM-WA-
    Posts: 485Platinum Member
    My 2 cents. I have been in the security industry for almost 10 years now and I often hear. Oh I dont use my security system when I am only gone for a short while.



    If you have a home security system ARM it and use it everytime you leave the house. We turn ours on when we are at the barn..



    Nothing deters a thief more than a blaring alarm and the knowledge that they have been detected....
  • hudsonguyhudsonguy
    Posts: 754Platinum Member
    Richie,



    I agree with the advice to use the alarm every time. I also know the skin-crawling feeling you must be experiencing. I feel bad for you.



    A few year's ago, my rural house was also burglarized. My wife went to town for no more than 30 minutes, so there were no cars in the driveway. That's all it took for them to be there and gone.



    Since then I've installed an alarm system that we use all the time, and always keep a 'decoy' car in the driveway.



    I was really lucky, in that two week's after my incident they caught the guy's and I got most of my stuff back! So there's always hope for a better outcome.
  • RichieRichie
    Posts: 904Platinum Member
    Jon B wrote:
    I hope you won't take offense, but I'm gonna move this to the Discussions section 'cause, as you say, it's a bit off-topic. It is truly heartbreaking to be burgled, and it kind of pulls the rug out from under one's sense of well-being. The realization that some stranger has simply sashayed into your private domain and walked off with whatever he wanted to, would leave every one of us with the urge to kill. Don't entirely give up hope -- this may never happen again, and it is not out of the realm of possibility that these guys may be apprehended, and you may get your property back.



    Jon, no offense taken, I shouldn't have posted anything about my personal problems. I was just really upset with everything. Thanks,

    Also thanks to everyone for their helpful comments. The alarm system will be used every time I leave. Thanks again guys. Richie.
  • VicTor ZVicTor Z
    Posts: 496Platinum Member
    Richie, I would like to Thank You for your post, it is a wake up for me and many more that thinks a short time away from the house, having a dog will keep us safe from break-ins. Thanks Again VicTor Z
  • Heart Of Texas
    Posts: 700Platinum Member
    In this day of cheap hi tech... having a set of interior hidden cameras is a good idea. Over the years the quality has increased and the cost plummeted. I like others have cameras hidden which are accessed via the Internet and on 24-7 recording everything they see. With the battery powered camera and UPS on the CPU supporting them ... the activites in the house can be watched from any place I can get on line. Do not for get a camera or two covering the front door and back of the house. Interesting to see the folks who come to your door... I am of a mind that many are out "casing the house and neighborhood" under the guise of selling something door to door. My neighbor is a fine fellow and it would be a fool who tries his place...between the 45 he keeps and wears and the shotgun in the closet... well you can guess the outcome.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
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    Unfortunately, if you shoot someone that is robbing your house, You will go to jail! Sad but True.......

    Bob





    Except in Texas, where you are free to shoot anybody who walks onto your property, much less IN your house.
  • SamJSamJ
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    If you were sitting over your coffee in the restaurant with your gun in your pocket and your cameras set up throughout the house, you would have had the same outcome, just nice video to watch of an evening. An alarm and a barking dog bouncing himself off the inside of the door the burglar is trying to break down is by far the best deterrent. Even my UPS guy doesn't come within 20 yards of my house! If a gun appeals to you for home protection (maybe useful when you're home), your baking dog will give you time to slip a coupla rounds of double-ought buck into your ol' Browning twelve gauge. Just the sound of you racking that sucker will scare off all but the most drug-addled intruder. :D
    HETfortyqtpi@earthlink.net (drop the HET)

  • Nevada HudsonNevada Hudson
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    Good advice from Sam. We can protect ourselves in this state. If you can still legally own a gun in your state, I suggest a gun safety class, along with a gun safe and trigger lock to avoid any"mistakes" or theft. Since the election, gun prices are going way up, ( No, it's not Barret-Jackson here!) and many stores are running out of certain kinds of ammunition, for fears that they may soon be banned. (speculators?) The criminal element can always get their firearms from the black market and drug deals.
  • MikeWAMikeWA
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    RL Chilton wrote:
    Unfortunately, if you shoot someone that is robbing your house, You will go to jail! Sad but True.......

    Bob





    Except in Texas, where you are free to shoot anybody who walks onto your property, much less IN your house.



    Not necessarily- This is a true story- a guy with a remote farm that was normally uninhabited had experienced several thefts of tools, etc.- So he decided to sleep out there for awhile to protect his stuff. Hid his vehicle in the barn. Late one night, perp returns- owner comes out, fires a warning shot- but was a little low, and coroner said perp was dead before he hit the ground. At trial, owner testified that he had tried to fire a warning shot, thought it was high over the perp's head, so sorry, etc.



    Jury acquitted him- jury foreman told reporter (with a straight face), "We believed that it was just a warning shot, gone awry- and we couldn't send the guy to prison for being a poor shot." ;)
  • SamJSamJ
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    Is there a State in the Union where you can't buy and own a shotgun or a rifle with no interference? Most people have a better chance of protecting their home and family with a 12-gauge than they do with an AK-47 or a 20-round Glock. I suppose if you had a 50 mil machine gun mounted on the top of your car you could cause the bad guys to crap themselves to death...:D
    HETfortyqtpi@earthlink.net (drop the HET)

  • Nevada HudsonNevada Hudson
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    SamJ wrote:
    Is there a State in the Union where you can't buy and own a shotgun or a rifle with no interference? Most people have a better chance of protecting their home and family with a 12-gauge than they do with an AK-47 or a 20-round Glock. I suppose if you had a 50 mil machine gun mounted on the top of your car you could cause the bad guys to crap themselves to death...:D

    Go on NRA's website and they have lists of what states ban. California, Hawaii, D.C. ,Chicago,and some states in New England have the most gun bans. All Sates have the "Brady" check which is a extra $25 fee, which is basically a Federal tax.
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,148Moderator
    SamJ wrote:
    If you were sitting over your coffee in the restaurant with your gun in your pocket and your cameras set up throughout the house, you would have had the same outcome, just nice video to watch of an evening. An alarm and a barking dog bouncing himself off the inside of the door the burglar is trying to break down is by far the best deterrent. Even my UPS guy doesn't come within 20 yards of my house! If a gun appeals to you for home protection (maybe useful when you're home), your baking dog will give you time to slip a coupla rounds of double-ought buck into your ol' Browning twelve gauge. Just the sound of you racking that sucker will scare off all but the most drug-addled intruder. :D
    Mine just 'clicks' when the breach is closed. It is a 12 Ga. Double barrel...

    Link to state gun laws -
    http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/
  • SamJSamJ
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    46HudsonPU wrote:
    Mine just 'clicks' when the breach is closed. It is a 12 Ga. Double barrel...



    There's no sound quite like that "click" in the dead quiet at three in the morning, Rick...:D
    HETfortyqtpi@earthlink.net (drop the HET)

  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    A homeowner in NW Alabama was alerted by numerous phone calls to his home and decided to turn off all his lites and sit quietly without a TV just resting with his 9mm till someone(two men in their 20's) kicked open the back door. Another was waiting in the car as the driver. He empted the magazine at them in the dark and hit both but did not kill either. I think about 12-15 rounds. No info about how messy their pants were. One left in the car with the driver and the other had to wait on an ambulance. All three in jail. Hope he's prepared when they get out. Bob
  • bent metalbent metal
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    Richie wrote:
    I just need to vent a bit, sorry in advance. Being retired I always go out for coffee and a biscuit in the morning, well when I got home the back door was smashed in and they made off with our 40" flat screen TV a laptop, wifes jewelery and my stash of money in my dresser drawer. They had to know my routine and how much time they had, wish I came home a bit earlier !! They didn't get into the extra garage where the Hudsons are. We live in a culdersac and our area has never had this kind of problem before. I don't have a gun, but will buy one tomorrow. This really burns me up !! I guess this kind of thing will be on the increase with the economy in the dump. I feel a little bit better now, Richie.



    Sure sounds like a neighbor to me. But I'm sure you suspect that as well. Maybe a hidden camera is a good idea? Might see someone you know?



    As far as getting a gun and start shooting, I hope it never comes to that.
  • SamJSamJ
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    One left in the car with the driver and the other had to wait on an ambulance. All three in jail. Hope he's prepared when they get out. Bob



    This is a perceptive comment. There are some places in this country...I think of South Los Angeles and Long Beach, California, where if you start shooting, you'd better be prepared to go into hiding...no matter the outcome, somebody's coming for you and your family, and they have long memories...:eek:
    HETfortyqtpi@earthlink.net (drop the HET)

  • rambos_riderambos_ride
    Posts: 3,123Platinum Member
    Richie,

    Grrr people who steal make me angry :mad:

    That really sux! Did the police tell you if there has been a lot of break-in in the 'hood lately?

    It had to be someone close/close by that knew your routine - and that you didn't set your alarm.

    Besides setting the alarm, a safe deterrant (besides the decoy car - which BTW needs to move once in a while) is to vary your schedule so you're not so darn predictable ~ :D
  • Hudson308Hudson308
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    bent metal wrote:
    Sure sounds like a neighbor to me. But I'm sure you suspect that as well. Maybe a hidden camera is a good idea? Might see someone you know?



    As far as getting a gun and start shooting, I hope it never comes to that.



    Yeah, what he said. :D
    Workin Stiff