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- 1049superg January 2009
- 2manyprojects January 2009
- 5433HET January 2009
- Dave53-7C January 2009
- denverslim January 2009
- Don C. Mozynski January 2009
- dougson January 2009
- hornet53 January 2009
- Howard's Garage January 2009
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- Top Down January 2009
1953 Hornet Convertible on eBay
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If I'm not mistaken, this is the same car sold on e-bay by the same guy last year for over $100,000 or thereabouts? Strange
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Well for $100 K you would expect it to NOT have rust blisters in the hood (apparent in several photos of the right front corner).
Also engine paint "not up to snuff" for that kinda $. -
oldhudsons wrote:Well for $100 K you would expect it to NOT have rust blisters in the hood (apparent in several photos of the right front corner).
Also engine paint "not up to snuff" for that kinda $.
The blisters on the hood clearly mean oxidation underneath = rust. From my limited experience, the entire area under the front hood brace is probably rusting. -
nhp1127 wrote:If I'm not mistaken, this is the same car sold on e-bay by the same guy last year for over $100,000 or thereabouts? Strange
This was well roasted on the forum the first time it was auctioned. Maybe the foriegn sale fell through once the buyer saw the car in person.
http://www.classiccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14058&highlight=ebay+convertible+1953 -
doors are sagging, too....
would probably be a nice driver,
here is a basic number three driver. -
Rust bubbles, paint chips, chrysler wheels, crank windows, pastic wiring, 12 volt, ( thusly probably an alternator ?), somewhere I think someone mentioned some vinyl where there should have been leather -- (not sure on this one), engine bay needs some detailing at least, not sure about underside. Not sure if mechanically excellent, or something needs rebuild.
All in all a very, very cool driver in anyone's estimation, but definately not a #1 show car, as we all know. Correctly detailed, this car could be a knockout anywhere, but not worth a hundred grand IMO, as is, but then again, who am I to judge its worth ! That'll be up to the Guy who writes the cheque for it, and I wish the present owner every success in the sale.
If it were me considering the purchase of this car, I'd do a complete survey of its shortcomings in my own eye, figure out what it would cost me to "fix" those so-called shortcomings, deduct that from a hundred grand ( which I feel this car is worth in concours condition), and offer that.
From there its the owners call. After all, he could upgrade it to concours too, and maybe a lot cheaper than I could, and have that flawless convert that every Hudsonite, car nut, or old car dealer wishes he had too !!
Either way, I still wish I owned it, warts or not. Its a beaut, and definately a diamond in the rough.
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You guys are such little girls! I sold the car to a very nice gentleman in Europe and he drove the car when ever he was here in the states and very much liked the car. He has now decided to sell the car, why do you guys have to trash the car every time it comes up for sale? DO any of you own a 1953 Hornet convertible and are they any other ones for sale? Just calm down and don't get your panties in a twist. It is a nice driver and that is what is stated on the auction, It is not a Show car....get over it.
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It's one thing for people to criticize an inanimate object, but just plain rude for you to insult members of this forum who are just expressing opinions and pointing out the obvious. You must be operating under the assumption that it's acceptable for you to be critical but for others it's not. Get over it? Find a mirror and tell that to the person you see.
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How do you like that! I put a bid of $18,090.01 on this Hornet convertable and although I'm presently the high bidder, the reserve still hasn't been met! What's this guy want, everything this side of the stars for this car?!! Well, maybe no one else will bid on it and the seller will come to his senses and tell me it's mine for the 18 "G's" I offered (I can dream, can't I?).
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retired guys with too much time doing nothing but being crabby. criticizing cars they can,t own,don.t own and can,t afford to own anyway.such a waste of energy. cheer up people!!!! all you experts and nothing nice to say. sad aren,t you. its only a car, my gosh. now that you read my thoughts you can critize me enjoy if you must
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Oh I don't know, kinda makes things interesting. I would think everyone would be tired of all the political correctness by now.
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It DOES look like a beauty, and I don't think there is anyone here that would not like to own her.
It's just that it saddens some of us grey beards to see what little value the dollar has come to...slim -
Seems to me that a lot of old car nuts use these forums to get advice on their projects, find parts for their projects, keep up with what's happening around their hobby, source information with regards to how to keep their cars in good mechanical condition, and also to find out what the VALUE is of their particular car or part, or someone else's.
If you want to know if you're going to pay too much, buy a "pig in a poke", ask too much for your own stuff, or simply bite off more than you can chew, these forums are incomparable for keeping a Guy down to earth, and in touch with reality when it comes to "taking the plunge" and buying into his or her dream.
If your car can't stand up to an honest opinion about its worth or condition, then you'd better try to sell it locally by word of mouth or some such, because if it grabs the attention of these folks especially here on the Hudson forum, its gonna be given a "real world" look over by a lot of us, and the chips will fall where they may.
I, for one, would welcome a discussion on this forum, on any car I own, or if I had it for sale. Best way I can think of to know what its really worth (forget the old car value guide -- useless) and quickly find out what I might do to increase its value, if so inclined, or just to get the word out that its available. I've also seen a couple of those offshore scammers get flamed on this forum when they attempted to sell somebody else's car as their own, so IMO this is a good as it gets if you're honest and up front about your "treasure".
Like it or not, the club, and the forum, is here to stay, and I for one, couldn't be happier about that.
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Actually, the car has the correct wheels. The Chrysler wheels had the spokes set in on the next lip in the wheel. Hudson, Plymouth and Dodge used the wheels that are on that car. Chrysler and Desoto used the other type.
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Geeze, this thread is getting "testy!" I'm gonna move it to discussions.
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Top Down wrote:Actually, the car has the correct wheels. The Chrysler wheels had the spokes set in on the next lip in the wheel. Hudson, Plymouth and Dodge used the wheels that are on that car. Chrysler and Desoto used the other type.
Yes, the correct Hudson wheels for this car were "lip-laced", and these wheels on this car are lip-laced. However, its my understanding that Thunderbird had a lip-laced wheel as well, and they could be used on a Hudson. I believe the T-Bird wheels had a few more spokes than the Hudson wheel though, something like 52 versus 46 or somewhere in that range, but I'm probably out to lunch on the exact numbers here.
My own original Hudson wire wheels are still at Dayton being restored, so I can't go out and count the spokes, but will do so when they're back for reference, if nothing else.
I've seen a couple '54's ( convert's) out there with Chrysler wires, and you're right, I can spot those right across a parking lot ! Should have noticed that on this car, but they looked "right", and I didn't give them much thought until someone mentioned they were Chrysler wheels.
Darn hard to count the spokes in those pictures, so hard to say for sure if they're "real" or not.
Incidently, apparently the authentic Hudson wire wheels came in either paint, or chrome as well, so if you see a stepdown with lip-laced, painted wires, they could still be the real McCoy too.
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As I said in the original thread, I really know this car well, having drove it from NY to the HET Nats in Madison,WI, which is where the Hydramatic was replaced.I drove it over 1,000 miles in less than a week.It was an awesome road car with excellent handling,power, and great comfort. The only place I wished I had my modern Mazda 3 was going thru Chicago traffic, with wicked stop and go, not to mention lane changes! Needless to say, on the return trip,we stuck to the cornfield-populated backroads of Indiana.......
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Yeah, without counting the spokes its hard to tell. It's 20 below outside and I was just killing some time. So they are the correct type but maybe not the correct wheels. Anyway I've had the painted and the chrome ones and I actually like the painted ones. They just seem to fit lines of the car where the chrome ones seem to draw your attention away from the sleek design on the body. Just my opinion and it still isn't getting any warmer out.
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this car is 56 years old and the door sags, which can be fixed. hudson kid pointed this out. wonder if he has any sags that could be fixed or maybe not !!!!its just a car,my gosh
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How many '53 Convertibles are accounted for? If I remember correctly, it's a low number.
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Top Down wrote:Yeah, without counting the spokes its hard to tell. It's 20 below outside and I was just killing some time. So they are the correct type but maybe not the correct wheels. Anyway I've had the painted and the chrome ones and I actually like the painted ones. They just seem to fit lines of the car where the chrome ones seem to draw your attention away from the sleek design on the body. Just my opinion and it still isn't getting any warmer out.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you Top Down --- the painted wire wheels somehow have "the look" that the chrome ones don't. Mine were chrome from day one though, so I opted not to paint them.
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royer wrote:How many '53 Convertibles are accounted for? If I remember correctly, it's a low number.
Can't get an exact count, but '52's and '53 Hornets: somewhere between 22 and 25 left of each year. I know of 20 for sure and there's probably a handful that are not accounted for. -
Ended at $57,299.00. Reserve not met.1953 Hornet sedan Twin-H
Custom front springs, drop-blocks out back, Clifford 6-2 headers exiting out back shotgun style, Pertronix, and Flames!
1964 Chevy C-10 Longbed, 396/TH400 lowered just enough and \"easy to touch up\" Black paint.
2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
Caved in quarter and fender. Bad paint. Non-True-Trac heap. But it's paid for.
