Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

In this Discussion

stepdown chop tops, anyone?
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    [ATTACH]5334[/ATTACH]

    Pic 35 The lip we left after removing the roof is now trimmed and allows us to lay it in toward the new roof position. This is also where that body line will start to disappear. You may have to make vertical cuts in the lip to allow it to flow into the new roof line. The top of the window frame was overlapped onto the roof and welded top and bottom for strength.



    [ATTACH]5335[/ATTACH]

    Pic 36 Filler pieces are now welded into place for the remaining holes. If you have good panel skills you can probably get these to flow nicely into the roof and window frame.



    [ATTACH]5336[/ATTACH]

    Pic 37 Roof now fitted front and back, Ignore the blue lines on the door pillars.



    [ATTACH]5337[/ATTACH]

    Pic 38 Welds ground back and in primer. You can reshape the gutter to flow with the new curve of the front window frame quite easily.



    [ATTACH]5338[/ATTACH]

    Pic 39 Some finer work still required to finish off the rear of the rear quarter window but the roof flows quite well into the body. You can also see the body line disappearing as it goes across the rear of the car.
    IMG_0035 (Medium)_123600094547027.jpg
    800 x 533 - 49K
    IMG_0036 (Medium)_123600279247027.jpg
    800 x 535 - 51K
    IMG_0037 (Medium)_123599443847027.jpg
    800 x 535 - 43K
    IMG_0038 (Medium)_123599748747027.jpg
    800 x 536 - 46K
    IMG_0039 (Medium)_123599027547027.jpg
    800 x 536 - 39K
    Workin Stiff
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    [ATTACH]5339[/ATTACH]

    Pic 40 Original windscreen frame has an ‘L’ shaped lip welded all the way around it which forms a recess for the windscreens to be glued into. I had VW Kombi screens cut to suit as these have a similar curve to the original Hudson screens. However if laminated Hudson screens are now available (they were not when I started mine) these may be an easier option.



    [ATTACH]5340[/ATTACH]

    Pic 41 Another angle



    [ATTACH]5341[/ATTACH]

    Pic 42 Finished lip in primer.



    [ATTACH]5342[/ATTACH]

    Pic 43 Front view after chop. The Hudson does not have the ‘high centre of windscreen’ look which a lot of cars have once chopped.



    [ATTACH]5343[/ATTACH]

    Pic 44 Cut down garnish moulds sitting on top of original garnish moulds will give an idea of the amount of rake the new ‘A’ pillars have.
    IMG_0040 (Medium)_123599662647027.jpg
    800 x 537 - 45K
    IMG_0041 (Medium)_123599195847027.jpg
    800 x 538 - 40K
    IMG_0042 (Medium)_123601168947027.JPG
    800 x 600 - 60K
    IMG_0043 (Medium)_123602297347027.JPG
    800 x 600 - 71K
    IMG_0044 (Medium)_123600644247027.JPG
    800 x 600 - 54K
    Workin Stiff
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    Pics 45-48 A great mate of mine Pete Smith from Coomera QLD then finished the body work and painted the car. I can’t take credit for that as he spent many hours smoothing the body work to the standard you see in the finished car. I can’t thank him enough for his efforts and am in awe of his craftsmanship.

    [ATTACH]5344[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH]5345[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH]5346[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH]5347[/ATTACH]
    IMG_0045_400x300_123604097847027.JPG
    400 x 300 - 88K
    IMG_0046_440x330_123604772547027.JPG
    440 x 330 - 94K
    IMG_0047_480x360_123605030447027.JPG
    480 x 360 - 97K
    IMG_0048_440x330_123604944547027.JPG
    440 x 330 - 96K
    Workin Stiff
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    Here's a picture that Rod's son created of the ol'man's finished ride. If you guys clicked directly to this shot, you've gotta go back to thread pages 5 & 6 to see the whole story. :cool:

    [ATTACH]5348[/ATTACH]
    dads_car2_600x430_123602922947027.jpg
    600 x 430 - 76K
    Workin Stiff
  • bent metalbent metal
    Posts: 1,348Platinum Member
    Awesome pictures, and great discriptions of how you did it! Thanks, and keep them coming! I'd like to see more. Also can you tell us more about how you are doing the mock-up card board pieces that I see on your dash there? I've never seen that method before.
  • hudsoncustomhudsoncustom
    Posts: 151Expert Adviser
    Here's a photo of a guy in California's chopped 53 in progress. He chopped his similar to the way I did mine, brought the lid down, and moved the rear window area forward.



    P1010994.jpg



    P1020021.jpg
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    More nice smithin'!!! :cool:
    Workin Stiff
  • hud 50
    Posts: 5Hitchhiker
    bent metal wrote:
    Awesome pictures, and great discriptions of how you did it! Thanks, and keep them coming! I'd like to see more. Also can you tell us more about how you are doing the mock-up card board pieces that I see on your dash there? I've never seen that method before.



    The picture you refer to was when I was mocking up the dash and instrument cluster. The original dash was removed and a steel frame was constructed from 1/4' and 5/16' rod to the desired shape and curve. The frame is removable and forms a 'skeleton' for the dash. I then fixed a product called tamanto to that frame with epoxy and then fibreglassed it to create the dash, the same was done for the console. I'm not sure of the product brand name in the US but it is used in boat building for 'sandwich foam' construction boats. It's available in different thicknesses and in its thinest form is quite flexible. The parts you refer to were ultimately not used but a similar one was made for the centre of the dash under which the stereo head unit lives.



    MANY THANKS TO HUDSON 308 FOR TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO POST THE PICTURES OF THE ROOF CHOP. I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS.
    Interior3 small (WinCE)_123608127652088.JPG
    240 x 180 - 18K
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    hud 50 wrote:
    MANY THANKS TO HUDSON 308 FOR TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO POST THE PICTURES OF THE ROOF CHOP. I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS.



    Posting those pictures was a whole lot easier than chopping that top for sure, mate! Thanks again for sharing 'em. :D
    Workin Stiff
  • bent metalbent metal
    Posts: 1,348Platinum Member
    Hudsoncustom, who did that work and where in California is he? I'd like to see it if it's not too far away. That sheet metal looks like a new stamping it's so nice! Great craftsmanship!
  • ArikEhleArikEhle
    Posts: 21Greasemonkey
    bent metal wrote:
    Hudsoncustom, who did that work and where in California is he? I'd like to see it if it's not too far away. That sheet metal looks like a new stamping it's so nice! Great craftsmanship!



    I second that, would love to know who did this! Very, very nice.
  • hudsoncustomhudsoncustom
    Posts: 151Expert Adviser
    His name is Dave. He goes by "studhud" on the HAMB. I don't know him personally, just exchanged a few emails and such over the years.



    I do know that car was rear ended a couple of years ago if you can believe it. he sure does nice work.
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    hudsoncustom wrote:
    His name is Dave. He goes by "studhud" on the HAMB. I don't know him personally, just exchanged a few emails and such over the years.



    I do know that car was rear ended a couple of years ago if you can believe it. he sure does nice work.



    Yeah, well... so do you. :D
    Workin Stiff
  • half bakedhalf baked
    Posts: 430Platinum Member
    that big back window must complicate the chopping, but hell it just looks so right. job well done
  • vonhitch
    Posts: 4Hitchhiker
    Thanks for the compliment on the metal work.Ive lurked around here for a while i just dont post a whole lot. The car is mine I've owned it for about 10 years. The chop was recently completed, its not even really finished right now I am starting to section the car should be a simple job well sorta!

    Thanks Dave

    oh by the way I am in Auburn california If you guys want to check it out in person send me a PM.

    hudsoncustom wrote:
    Here's a photo of a guy in California's chopped 53 in progress. He chopped his similar to the way I did mine, brought the lid down, and moved the rear window area forward.



    P1010994.jpg



    P1020021.jpg
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    bent metal wrote:
    Hudsoncustom, who did that work and where in California is he? I'd like to see it if it's not too far away. That sheet metal looks like a new stamping it's so nice! Great craftsmanship!



    Finish that tulip panel and you could clear it an drive it. Looks like untouched paint on the roof? Broughams look Sooooo good chopped. I'd love to see a '54 with late 50's Chrysler taillights in kicked-out quarters. It wouldn't be a Cadzilla clone, but would have all the lines that made that car great.
    Workin Stiff
  • Posts: 0
    vonhitch, great looking job!! hope you will post a couple of pics of the section job . Ive wondered what a chop and section would look like .
  • vonhitch
    Posts: 4Hitchhiker
    QUOTE=bent metal;89619]Can anyone comment on my earlier comment about the windshield? The reason I said the front windshield is a problem is because I had a glass guy tell me that it's very difficult to cut down a front windshield without having it shatter. That been said, I've been looking through past posts and I saw where the "panty Dropper" said he had some guy in his area cut his windshield down some two and a half inches with no problems mentioned.....So was I just talking to a bad "glass guy", or is it difficult to cut down the front glass?:confused:[/QUOTE]



    Hey Bent metal in answer to your original question about cutting the glass its not that hard to do. There is some risks but if you have new or really good glass and a diamond cutter with lots of water its just time consuming. I used a diamond cutter mounted on a cordless drill with a small flow of water from a garden hose. Hey i know I could have been electricuted bla bla. It took an hour and a half or so to cut then I took it to a glass guy and had the edge ground although it didnt really need it. The key to cutting a roof is to make the metal fit the glass. Dont try making glass way 2 expensive.

    Thanks Dave
  • hudsoncustomhudsoncustom
    Posts: 151Expert Adviser
    Glad to see you signed up here Dave. I regret not being able to meet you in Sacramento...



    So you're sectioning the car now huh? I hope you take plenty of pics!
  • bent metalbent metal
    Posts: 1,348Platinum Member
    Section that car?!?! I'm not sure if I could do that. It already looks perfect!

    IMO :cool:



    But I can't wait to see pictures!:D
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    bent metal wrote:
    Section that car?!?! I'm not sure if I could do that. It already looks perfect!

    IMO :cool:



    But I can't wait to see pictures!:D



    I agree. Love the lines just the way it is... and the metal finishing is awfully nice to go slicing again. :eek:
    Workin Stiff
  • vonhitch
    Posts: 4Hitchhiker
    hudsoncustom wrote:
    Glad to see you signed up here Dave. I regret not being able to meet you in Sacramento...



    So you're sectioning the car now huh? I hope you take plenty of pics!



    I haven't even started the cut yet but I got it figured out. The section will go through the middle of the car but the quarters and doors will look the same. I will re hang the doors and quarters with the stock profile but will reduce the height of the rockers panels. The door bottoms will be moved up the distance of the section and hang over the frame a bit. The rockers to me are too tall, the trim and ribs formed on them are also too busy so new rockers will be fabricated to clean it up. the section will be very mild. Less is more so to speak! The car should be farther along and back on the road in may. I will post some pics of the work when I get it farther along.

    Thanks Dave
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    vonhitch wrote:
    I haven't even started the cut yet but I got it figured out. The section will go through the middle of the car but the quarters and doors will look the same. I will re hang the doors and quarters with the stock profile but will reduce the height of the rockers panels. The door bottoms will be moved up the distance of the section and hang over the frame a bit. The rockers to me are too tall, the trim and ribs formed on them are also too busy so new rockers will be fabricated to clean it up. the section will be very mild. Less is more so to speak! The car should be farther along and back on the road in may. I will post some pics of the work when I get it farther along.

    Thanks Dave



    Y'know... that might just work...

    :D
    Workin Stiff
  • bent metalbent metal
    Posts: 1,348Platinum Member
    Can't wait to see how you do it! Also, please keep in mind that thier are a lot of people who would love to buy your old rockers. Since your going to make new ones. Please make your posts detailed with photos! This is going to be great!:D:D
  • hudsoncustomhudsoncustom
    Posts: 151Expert Adviser
    vonhitch wrote:
    I haven't even started the cut yet but I got it figured out. The section will go through the middle of the car but the quarters and doors will look the same. I will re hang the doors and quarters with the stock profile but will reduce the height of the rockers panels. The door bottoms will be moved up the distance of the section and hang over the frame a bit. The rockers to me are too tall, the trim and ribs formed on them are also too busy so new rockers will be fabricated to clean it up. the section will be very mild. Less is more so to speak! The car should be farther along and back on the road in may. I will post some pics of the work when I get it farther along.

    Thanks Dave



    I think that'll look fantastic. I'm with you 100%.



    I also thought the rockers were a bit too busy with the trim, and the ribs, so I made new ones also on my rig. (actually, I've only done the drivers side so far, I got waylaid) ha ha.
  • vonhitch
    Posts: 4Hitchhiker
    bent metal wrote:
    Can't wait to see how you do it! Also, please keep in mind that thier are a lot of people who would love to buy your old rockers. Since your going to make new ones. Please make your posts detailed with photos! This is going to be great!:D:D



    Bent metal trust me I throw nothing away. I do have a 52 brougham as well I'll sell them at some point with that car (I decided not to keep it) or will offer them up here. I'm not the most computer savy person but will try to do a post when Im doing the car so I pass on some ideas for others.

    Thanks Dave
  • lsfirthlsfirth
    Posts: 273Gold Member
    Does anyone know what the rear window is out of??? Damn....that thing is sent from heaven isn't it!!!!
    This Hudson project is starting to scare the crud out of me!!!
  • Hudson308Hudson308
    Posts: 1,405Platinum Member
    lsfirth wrote:
    Does anyone know what the rear window is out of??? Damn....that thing is sent from heaven isn't it!!!!



    Yeah, I spotted it on page 46 of the April '10 Rod & Custom, as well. Kar Kulture or somebody like that should do a full feature.
    Workin Stiff