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In this Discussion
- bent metal November 2008
- Browniepetersen September 2008
- faustmb September 2008
- Huddy42 September 2008
- RL Chilton November 2008
- Ron P November 2008
- Turbopackman October 2008
- walt norem November 2008
essex boat tail
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what about this one took photo years ago wasn't for sale then but has been sold since located northern New South Wales AUSTRALIA
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I don't think I would buy that one Spencer, it has no front door and my passenger may fall out of it.
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That is a cool picture. I'm glad to hear that it is no longer in the field. I wouldn't worry about the door, that's what bungee cords and duct tape are for.
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Spencer,
This is such a nice body style and a rare car. I would grab it up and start on it. There is a fellow here state side that bends metal for the boat tails and he can make you a door in a few weeks from the one or two he has in his shop. Great car, exciting project...Brownie -
Browniepetersen wrote:Spencer,
This is such a nice body style and a rare car. I would grab it up and start on it. There is a fellow here state side that bends metal for the boat tails and he can make you a door in a few weeks from the one or two he has in his shop. Great car, exciting project...
Who is this gentleman? I'm building a 1925 style Packard boattail Speedster and would be interested in talking to him. -
Turbopackman wrote:Who is this gentleman? I'm building a 1925 style Packard boattail Speedster and would be interested in talking to him.
I think he's talking about me.
I have posted some pictures of some of my current projects in the 'Street Rod' section here, if you want to see.
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Seen your posts, at least most of them, but never came across a boattail. I planned on making mine out of thinner sheetmetal formed over a 1/2" square tubing cage frame. I can't do much right now as I don't have my welder down here yet and I don't have a 220V outlet in the garage yet.
This is what I'm trying to achieve, albeit a two-seater:
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It's good your not in a hurry. I'm super busy right now.
That's a beautiful design. I like the way the leaf springs connect, very nice. So do you want to make this in steel or aluminum? The original pictures look like it was aluminum? Maybe not? The boat tail part that I made was .041 steel and was based on a two seater production car, not a race car. Here are some pictures of that.
By the way, do you have more pictures of the above car? I would like to see more.
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Unfortunately, those are the only photos I have of the 1923 Packard racer. I honestly couldn tell you if it was aluminum or steel, but I'm betting on aluminum. I plan on doing mine in steel, since I can weld it easier that aluminum. What you've done there looks VERY nice, and looks like it was pretty difficult. I do like my idea of going after the racing design, as I won't have to muck with the beading on the edge that it looks like you had to do. I'm looking for a nice curving rear that looks like it all comes together neatly. The production cars have that little "flap" on the bottom of the tail that covers the frame, and I don't really care for that styling. I think most of the old race cars got the tail design perfect with it going down under the chassis somewhat. Stopping at the top of the chassis just looks "unfinished" to me.
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I just came across this thread. Nice deck. Is that for a customer, or one of your projects? -
RL Chilton wrote:Bentmetal-
I just came across this thread. Nice deck. Is that for a customer, or one of your projects?
The way this came to be was that I needed a project. I went to Massachusettes to take a class with Fay Butler. Who is who I consider to be the best metal shaper in the world. Well I needed to have a class project to make and since my Dad won't let me buy his boat tail, I figured I might as well start making my own.
...Now all I have to do is make the other 95% of the car. lol:D
As of now, the deck lid piece is in the corner of my garage, waiting for me to get around to it. .....Come on lotto! -
That's a great attitude. And really, why not make one?
I know this guy who came across a vintage Miller racing engine that was complete and was originally in a successful Miller racer. Of course, scoring an original Miller is no small feat, so he decided to build a duplicate of the original car, right down to the bronze castings, which he's making himself along with the frame, sheetmetal work, etc.
He's scored dimensions and some templates from other Miller owners, and fortunately has quite a few photographs to work from. His determination and perseverance is admirable.
My old man is fond of saying: You can accomplish anything you want to in this world with enough money and time. Most people have too much of one and not enough of the other.
I've come to a point where I now feel the need to add to his wisdom: Desire and perseverance are equally important. Without them, and you run across the half-finished project in the neighbor's garage, of which those seem to be plentiful, always have been. -
That's all so true. It's not always easy to stay motivated when 'life' keeps happening. Do you have any photos of the Miller?
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walt norem wrote:HAHAHAHA! That poor car.:eek:
Ooooh man! I would laugh too if I wasn't so disgusted. hmm, I wonder if you could cut that apart and still save the boat? haha -
Boy, that's the truth. They literally used a "boat" for the back end . . . and badly done, to boot. Who are they kidding? $29,000? PLEEZ.
Bentmetal-
I loaned the pics to my old man, they are actually hard copies, not digital. I'll see about getting them and maybe I can scan them and get them posted.
