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I'm thinkin' 392 Hemi, or 308 Hudson with an old super charger. Lots of louvers and Lambo doors. :rolleyes:

She's about 80% there, it's a 1927 Essex. By the way, I'm just kidding about the rat rod stuff. Anyone have one of these? My Dad needs some info and a few parts.

FYI

Perhaps I am biased, but anything as rare as a Boatail Essex speedster would look out of place without Hudson Power. Think more about a Hornet (that would practically bolt in) coupled to a 4 Spd with Triple Carbs. There are many updates & adapters to make Hornet's more powerful than ever before and as long lasting as modern motors...(Not to mention eventual resale value)

Gorgeous work- I love seeing stuff like that.



But what's the story on the engine-turned piece that your part is laying on in the center photo? That's kind of impressive, as well.

As Lee said a pleasure to watch, it doesn't matter what project or whose car it, your quality continually shows through

Well thank you very much! I do try and do a good job on whatever some one brings to me. Whether it be an unseen floor pan or a new door skin. I think it's all important, and it's all a challenge.

I would consider selling my coupe for a 31 version of the boattail

what a cool ride stock or rodded



mike

How about a raised horizontal character line or two on the sides, 3-4" below the top? They would strengthen the panels a bit, set it apart, and be evocative of the "rub strips" on a real boat.

Yes, that's the kind of thing I'd like to do. The raised character line would make it look like a series II. I might want to get a little more extreme then that. Or atleast make a raised line that is different than a series II. hmm



I was thinking maybe an aluminum body? Flush mount doors? Maybe section it? Or channel the body on the sides? A Du Val (spelling?) windshield? Track nose? How about under-slung? Dual side mounts? Or maybe no fenders at all?:rolleyes:hmmmm?



Looking for more ideas, and lots of them.

She's lookin' really good, bentmetal. I didn't really realize how small these cars were till that vintage pic got posted in this thread. Is yours the same size? Looks like a 3/4 car.



As far as ideas go, here's a few to muddy the waters:



1. I like the idea of "rub rails" down the length of the body, but I would go no more than about 2" from the top of the body. Have the rail itself about 1-1/4" to 1-1/2" wide.



2. Lengthen the body! It will look sleeker and more streamlined with some more length, particularly longer doors, which will make access much easier. Don't know without looking it up, but what is the wheelbase on these cars? I think you should shoot for the 106" to 110" length.



3. Speaking of sleeker, the back deck always looks better when the rear point really tapers down towards that bottom panel and the "sides" of the rear of the car aren't as tall. Something to think about.



4. As far as the front, have you thought about maybe incorporating a '36-'37 style Hudson or Terraplane grille, but shortened? Shoot the style into the '30's era as opposed to the '20's era. Just a thought, I know how you like the '20's style racers.



5. Duvall windshield is a no-brainer, but needs a soft top that is removeable. A nice and short Duvall-style would be best. 10-12" would keep the Hudson theme going. Speaking of that, if you end up making one, I want one, too.



6. No spare on the rear!



7. Fuel tank inside the "tail". Clean look for the rear of the car. A rolled rear pan or maybe even vintage bumpers would be a nice touch.



8. Suicide doors that aren't just square, need some shape to the corners, particularly at the rear.



9. What about peaked front fenders? Pontoon-style? Challenge for the metal-master who knows it all.



Well, food for thought, anyway . . .

She's lookin' really good, bentmetal. I didn't really realize how small these cars were till that vintage pic got posted in this thread. Is yours the same size? Looks like a 3/4 car.



As far as ideas go, here's a few to muddy the waters:



1. I like the idea of "rub rails" down the length of the body, but I would go no more than about 2" from the top of the body. Have the rail itself about 1-1/4" to 1-1/2" wide. Hmm, wide body line? Hadn't thought of that. Sorta' like a '29? hmm. Maybe.



2. Lengthen the body! It will look sleeker and more streamlined with some more length, particularly longer doors, which will make access much easier. Don't know without looking it up, but what is the wheelbase on these cars? I think you should shoot for the 106" to 110" length.I think that would be a good idea too. Maybe make the door a little longer in the back and the part of the body behind the door a little shorter. So the overall length is the same, but the door is longer?



3. Speaking of sleeker, the back deck always looks better when the rear point really tapers down towards that bottom panel and the "sides" of the rear of the car aren't as tall. Something to think about.That would look good too. Perhaps make the body an inch or so lower and the fenders an inch or so taller? I'd also like to make the whole thing lower. At first I wanted it underslung. But then I wouldn't be able to use the rear pan. Which was too much work to just use as a wall hanger. I want to use it on the car.



4. As far as the front, have you thought about maybe incorporating a '36-'37 style Hudson or Terraplane grille, but shortened? Shoot the style into the '30's era as opposed to the '20's era. Just a thought, I know how you like the '20's style racers.Haha, your right! I do like the twenties style racers. But that's another project that's on my some day list. Actually so is the '36-7 grill. The praying mantis grill and the twenties racer are both good ideas for a different car. One thing I don't want to do is lose the primitive style of the original car. If you look at the pointed tail piece that I made you'll see that I made the rib detail "in" the panel. Instead of a bolt on piece like it was originally. The idea was to give it a more thirties look. But after it was made I didn't like it. I think it's going away too far from the original design. It's losing it's primitive charm. ...I think. I'd like to keep the changes subtle, maybe changes more in proportions rather than big design changes? ??I don't know.



5. Duvall windshield is a no-brainer, but needs a soft top that is removeable. A nice and short Duvall-style would be best. 10-12" would keep the Hudson theme going. Speaking of that, if you end up making one, I want one, too.Okay, sounds good. Once we get the ideas nailed down I think a drawing, nothing fancy, just a sketch should be done to see if it all looks good together. What year were the Duvall cars made? For some reason I think of them being an early thirties kind of thing.



6. No spare on the rear!Agreed! I want to see the tail, not the tire. Hmm, what about a bumper?



7. Fuel tank inside the "tail". Clean look for the rear of the car. A rolled rear pan or maybe even vintage bumpers would be a nice touch.Ha, your one step ahead of me with the bumper! If the tank was in the tail the filler would be in the center, up on top of the tail. Like a sprint car. But, the flat tail pan already has a cut out for the gas tank filler. If we went that route some thing else would need to go in that cut out. Have to think about that. One thing about this era is that they seem to be funtional more than looks oriented. So gas tank fillers would stick out, rather than shaved. You would see bolt and screws rather than hidden fasteners. I wouldn't want to lose too much of that "feel", or "charm", whatever you want to call it.



8. Suicide doors that aren't just square, need some shape to the corners, particularly at the rear.Do you mean a tilted straight line, or a curve? I know I would like to see them flush mount. I was thinking curved in the front and suicide?



9. What about peaked front fenders? Pontoon-style? Challenge for the metal-master who knows it all.I'd have to see a drawing of that. It might push the overall look too far into the thirties? Not sure.



Well, food for thought, anyway . . .

Yes! That's what I was hoping for, ideas. I can't use them all but I knew you guys would think of things that I would not have. That's awesome!



I never would of thought of the sliding doors either. Very interesting thought. If some thought was put into it, it could work on this project. I would want it to fit in with everything else though. That might be tough to do. I don't really want to modernize the car. I'm more thinking along the lines of "what would they have done" back then, if they could tweak it just a little bit?