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- 37 Terraplane#2 February 2008
- 66patrick66 February 2008
- James P. February 2008
- Oldcar_Mechanic February 2008
My Brakes Worry Me
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Got a 95 Dodge 1500--brake pedal goes down real close to floor--plenty of lineng all around--everything seems free--don't hear any vacume leaks--no fluid loss--WHATS UP ??
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There is air in the lines somewhere. Bleed them and check again.
If that doesn't cure it, the master cylinder is going on you."The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
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HI PATRICK, did the bleed thing allready. No change. Can't find anything wrong with the master,no leaks. Got 120,000 on this thing with the only repairs a water pump couple months ago. Beginning to think the booster is bad even tho I hear no vacume loss sounds or such. Got me baffled, never seen one act just like this without showing why.
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If you pump them, do they come up higher?
Are they 4 wheel disc?
Does the emergency brake function properly?
Ron -
My power booster went out recently on my '96 Cummins, but the brakes were hard, rather than squishy. Could still be the booster, perhaps?"The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
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it's weird guys, discs on front only. adjustments are proper, won't pump up, pedal is hard but way too low, emergency works fine. I'm leanig towards something goofy in the booster that I've never had happen . Comments ??
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I'm leaning towards the booster. Does your dash "ABS" or "Brake" light come on when you use the brakes?"The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
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I'm inclined to agree with a booster problem. Yes the abs light comes on, usually stays on constant. My problem with that is all I know about it is it's sayin "HEY BUDDY CHECK YOUR BRAKES "
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Take it to a dealer first, even if you have to pay $40.00 for them to scan the problem. I spent $250 for an ABS controller (just the part!) that I did not need (because the ABS light was on!), but the problem was the power booster, which cost me about $60.00 at the parts store vs $360.00 at Chrysler...part only! I installed it in about an hour total."The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
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If you have drum rear brakes, they may simply be way out of adjustment. They're self-adjusting, I know, but this is a common problem for people who don't back up frequently or don't depress the pedal firmly when they do. The self-adjusting mechanism is triggered to operate when the brake pedal is depressed while the vehicle is backing up. A small lever flicks the adjuster wheel one increment each time the pedal is depressed sufficiently. If you don't press the pedal firmly enough (the amount of pressure can vary widely with different makes of cars) it won't operate the small lever. I used to run into this problem fairly frequently when I was a mechanic. When people would describe their problem in detail, I would respond to them: "I know the problem, you park in front of your house, and not in the driveway." (Meaning they don't back up regularly, like folks who park in a garage or a driveway). I can't tell you how many times I was spot on. You can find a quiet parking lot and just back up a lot depressing the brake pedal firmly and frequently, but this may not work at this point because often times the adjuster wheel and/or arm are frozen up from lack of use in cases like this. In that case I would suggest that you remove the rear drums and clean up the adjuster mechanism, rather than just shoving an adjuster wrench through the slot. You mentioned that there was plenty of lining, but I bet your were only talking about the front pads. Maybe after all of my writing on this subject, all you actually need is new shoes for rear instead. In either case, I'd say it's time for you to pull the rear drums and see what's in there! I'll be curious to know what ultimately find to have been the problem.
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HI JAMES, thanks for the input, I do appreciate it. Not a rebuuff by any means, join in any time. Little background--overhauled my first engine at 16--built and drove sprint cars till I wised up and decided my son needed me more than I needed excitement--spent my life owning/operateing a small fleet of road trucks as cheif cook and bottle washer--so I know a bit about how things work--however,from time to time get stumped on todays cars and the latest high tech stuff is just plain over my head. Checked and did all that stuff. About concluded I have defective booster but have no way to check any more than listen for vacume leaks. As good as this old goat has been/still is a few bucks for a rebulit booster won't hurt me non right or wrong. Please join in any time,as a former full time auto mech I'm sure you've seen a lot of things I have'nt. Thanks again, BUD
