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Ducor Kid wrote:

Dan
I'm now toying with the idea of running vortec v8 in my Pacemaker.
Just wondered about weight difference? Fuel injection and overdrive tranny is tempting.

Larry

A small block (standard, cast heads, cast block) is around 575 lbs

What I can tell you with my big block install is that the motor will be moved back at least 6" from the stock forward location of the Hudson motor.

That will shift the weight nearer the firewall and not so forward on the suspension in theory the car should now handle better and not be as prone to oversteer.

Really - put the motor in there that's going to make you happy and drive the car.

I'd like to have a stock stepdown someday - but it will sit along side the custom!

Just met a neighbor of mine who has a '50 Merc sled. Its got a V10 Viper in it! They had to move the firewall back and the a/c stuff had to be resituated he said. The center console looks huge because the tranny is also back further. Looks cool when you open the hood though! And sounds mean.

Jay

rambos_ride wrote:

That v10 would fit a Hudson without replacing the firewall!

Yes, but why would you want to? A Hudson engine is better looking and works better then a Dodge V10 any day!!

jsrail wrote:

For those who like stock, you're probably correct. But hands down, if money was no object, I'd take the Viper any day over a flathead. That thing would scream down the highway!



Jay

In today's world money is an object. The V10 is losing proposition for the following reasons.



1. It takes considerable money and time to install in car.



2. The price of gas is high and going higher. The V10 gets about 1-2 MPG at speed. Nobody except Bill Gates would to afford run it at speed.



3. Running at speed gets you speed tickets and their hefty fines and even higher insurance rates. If you keep it up you lose your license.



4. Finality, if you must go fast a Viper is faster and safer then a Hudson with a V10.



It makes no sense to build a car for purpose it can not be used for.

mars55 wrote:

In today's world money is an object. The V10 is losing proposition for the following reasons.

1. It takes considerable money and time to install in car.

2. The price of gas is high and going higher. The V10 gets about 1-2 MPG at speed. Nobody except Bill Gates would to afford run it at speed.

3. Running at speed gets you speed tickets and their hefty fines and even higher insurance rates. If you keep it up you lose your license.

4. Finality, if you must go fast a Viper is faster and safer then a Hudson with a V10.

It makes no sense to build a car for purpose it can not be used for.

Other than possibly the air bag ~ I'd much rather be strapped into my Hudson with a sisal rope wrapped around my waist than that plastic laden death-trap-hot-rod they call a Viper! (can you tell I don't like new cars:))

I mean which of us could even fit into a Viper anyway HudsonKid's head would be sticking out the top - I don't think I could get in one without a shoehorn and greasing myself up!

46HudsonPU wrote:

How about a Viper V10 engine mated to a motorcycle?


However not really a motorcycle in the the basic sense - it has 4 wheels - but whoever rides it sits on it, not in it...

Those things are completely insane!

Have you seen anyone ride one? On video it looks like the "stunt rider" can barely hold on when he rolls onto the throttle!

I admire the unique engineering in the entire "bike" not jut the Viper motor.

:rolleyes: I love that bike! It's awesome. I saw a motorcycle in the Peterson that had a flat head V8 in it. I remember thinking it would be cool with a 308! The twin H air cleaners would be a little tall, maybe. lol