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46 PU spring shackle help
  • akcoopakcoop
    Posts: 211Gold Member
    I am trying to remove the upper spring shackle sleeve that bolts into the frame. The lower spring shackle sleeves came out just fine from the springs but the upper shackle sleeve on the passenger side refuses to budge. I am considering a comple of things. First is to heat up the frame right around the sleeve and then try and turn it. Second is to get a really good breaker bar/pipe and put some real torque on the sleeve head. I am afraid that if I twist the head off, I will regret the decisions leading up to that action! :mad:

    The ends of the frame on the pickups seem to suffer from excessive corrosion and I am wondering if it is just rusted in place.



    Any advice?



    One other, I believe the sleeve on the driver side loosens to the right (opposite of std). Can someone confirm?
    Aaron Cooper
    1917 Hudson 7-Pass Touring
    1929 Hudson Town Sedan
    1946/7 Hudson Pickup
    1951 Hudson Hornet 2dr Hardtop
  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,270Platinum Member
    One of the spring shackles is left hand thread, on one end only, ( that is, one thread of the U-shaped shackel is left hand, and the other is right hand) but I can't find any documentation as to which one. The bushing and shackle are both left hand thread, and from memory it is the upper left rear. However it is possible that the one you are trying to remove is actually left hadn thread, so you are trying to screw it in instead of out. Try turning it the opposite way and see how you get on. I don't know why they did this. any clues anyone? Good luck,

    Geoff.
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    Section 13, Page 257 - Hudson Mechanical Procedure Manual, Car Year Models 1942 to 1947 Incl.

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    Rear Spring Shackle Identification
    The right hand rear spring shackle has right hand threads on both upper and lower ends and the left hand rear spring shackle has right hand thread on the upper and left hand threads on the lower end.

    The lower left hand shackle bushing is left hand thread and has an identification groove 1/16" wide on the head.

    Note: The shackle having the left hand thread has a single forging mark at the shoulder.
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  • akcoopakcoop
    Posts: 211Gold Member
    Now for a little more detail. Does the upper shackle sleeve (screws into the frame) have the same type of threads on the outside as the one that screws into the curled end of the leaf spring? I have had a 5 foot pipe on my torque bar and it ain't movin'. My next move is to heat up the frame and try and turn it. Any other suggestions?
    Aaron Cooper
    1917 Hudson 7-Pass Touring
    1929 Hudson Town Sedan
    1946/7 Hudson Pickup
    1951 Hudson Hornet 2dr Hardtop
  • barrysweet52barrysweet52
    Posts: 273Gold Member
    Consider inserting a small screwdriver/chisel shaped tool into the end of the spring to slightly enlarge the eye of the spring. You will have to use a knockometer to do so. This will help you to remove the shackle sleeve.
  • 52 kahuna52 kahuna
    Posts: 279Gold Member
    barrysweet52 wrote:
    Consider inserting a small screwdriver/chisel shaped tool into the end of the spring to slightly enlarge the eye of the spring. You will have to use a knockometer to do so. This will help you to remove the shackle sleeve.



    just for clarifcation, for me, would that be a lefthanded or righthanded knockometer?
  • BJ__TNBJ__TN
    Posts: 1,211Platinum Member
    I know you won't believe this but I found an AMBIDEXTEROUS Knockometer at a swap meet. It didn't have the instruction sheet with it but I finally figured it out. Works like a charm.
    Bob
  • HudzillaHudzilla
    Posts: 1,285Platinum Member
    BJ__TN wrote:
    I know you won't believe this but I found an AMBIDEXTEROUS Knockometer at a swap meet. It didn't have the instruction sheet with it but I finally figured it out. Works like a charm.

    Bob
    Hey Bob is that the same as a hamulator?
  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,270Platinum Member
    akcoop wrote:
    Now for a little more detail. Does the upper shackle sleeve (screws into the frame) have the same type of threads on the outside as the one that screws into the curled end of the leaf spring? I have had a 5 foot pipe on my torque bar and it ain't movin'. My next move is to heat up the frame and try and turn it. Any other suggestions?



    Yes, it is the same, just a very lightly indented thread. Have you tried turning it the other way? It may be the left hand threaded one.
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.