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"Frame-off restoration" of Jet
  • super-sixsuper-six
    Posts: 214Gold Member
    The frame was sandblasted and painted black before we put the body back on.

    I would like to learn how he did this.



    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-HUDSON-SUPERJET-BURGANDY-FRAME-OFF-RESTORATION_W0QQitemZ280097162505QQcategoryZ6472QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  • 51hornetA51hornetA
    Posts: 2,338Platinum Member
    When I saw that I laughed. These guys post these ebay ads thinking the buyers are idiots. Since its unit body I guess he cut the frame out sandblasted painted then welded in back into the body. He must know he said he did the work.......

    These guys believe that if you say frame-off we will all go oooh it must have been done professionaly.
    www.hudsonmotorcar.org
  • super-sixsuper-six
    Posts: 214Gold Member
    The first thing that I think of is what else in the description is a little stretched!
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  • 66patrick6666patrick66
    Posts: 1,831Platinum Member
    I wanna see pics of this one while they had the body "off"!!! It's the same thing with Mopars. Try telling people a "frame-off" anything is impossible with a unibody car!



    With that said, it is a nice car, considering it IS a Jet, but the blue interior and red exterior....eeewwwwww!:eek:
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  • Swasp76063
    Posts: 166Gold Member
    super-six wrote:
    The first thing that I think of is what else in the description is a little stretched!

    Compression is 38-40 psi? Sounds a little low, doesn't it?
  • Posts: 0
    I may be wrong but I thought the jet was NOT unibody but has a full frame. Didn't they put the Italia on a jet frame?
  • royerroyer
    Posts: 998Platinum Member
    66patrick66 wrote:
    With that said, it is a nice car, considering it IS a Jet, but the blue interior and red exterior....eeewwwwww!:eek:

    Blue or green - that was your cloth interior color choice for a deluxe model Hudson in '53. Maybe that was what put Hudson out of business.:D
  • frank springfrank spring
    Posts: 326Gold Member
    It can be done as this picture illustrates, but you don't have much left.
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  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,270Platinum Member
    Jimalberta wrote:
    I may be wrong but I thought the jet was NOT unibody but has a full frame. Didn't they put the Italia on a jet frame?



    The Italia was on a Jet "platform". That is, they cut the entire top off the Jet, and built a new body on it. There is a "sub-frame" , holding the front suspension which is bolted under the front of the scuttle,, and the front guards and grille etc, are all bolted to this. Plus the front guards are bolted to the scuttle in front of the door hinges at the top. However, the entire body from the scuttle (bulkhead, whatever you want to call it) is indeed a monocoque construction.

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  • hornet53hornet53
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    frank spring wrote:
    It can be done as this picture illustrates, but you don't have much left.



    Would those be the remnants of the infamous Jet convert?
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  • Posts: 0
    I see, I stand corrected
  • Sarah YoungSarah Young
    Posts: 511Platinum Member
    hornet53 wrote:
    Would those be the remnants of the infamous Jet convert?



    Here's some pics of the convertible...

    http://hudsonjet.net/Convertible.html



    As far as this "frame-off" car, I think the interior looks good except for the embroidery. It's out of place compared to the overall look of the car. I would describe that as "pimpified."



    It's also in the fine details... I would have painted the black areas on the hood ornament.
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  • Sarah YoungSarah Young
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    So, I shot the eBay guy an e-mail asking him what he considered a frame-off resto and if he had pics of the body "off"... He replied saying that he was listing it for his father-in-law, who did most the work on the car. In reality, the frame was never cut, but he did sandblast the whole thing and painted black before the new paint job was put on. The listing guy is a camaro man who doesn't know anything about Hudsons and made a mistake during his description and plans to revise the description because multiple have inquired about the "frame-off."
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  • junkcarfannjunkcarfann
    Posts: 269Gold Member
    "Frame-Off" restoration is a misused term, just as "restored" is when applied to an antique car that has been rodded.
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,150Moderator
    junkcarfann wrote:
    "Frame-Off" restoration is a misused term, just as "restored" is when applied to an antique car that has been rodded.
    Of course, as old as 'rodding' is, it could be that a 'rodded' car has undergone a restoration (or a subsequent 'rodding' of its own, rodding a rod). Guess it would be pretty difficult to tell...