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Do you recognize these wheels?
  • James P.
    Posts: 444Platinum Member
    I'd like to find a new home for a set of wheels that I can't identify. I was fortunate enough to pick up a set of four brand new 6.00x16s for a good price at a swap meet a couple of years. I didn't pay much attention to the wheels that they came mounted on. At first glance I thought that they were '35 & '36 Plymouth, they look somewhat similar (especially the hubcap clips), but the bolt pattern and the center hole are way too big. I suppose that makes them Kelsy - Hayes, but I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with any car that has a 5" bolt pattern. They might be off of an independent, perhaps Nash, Studebaker, etc. I doubt if they're off of any Ford or GM car, but I specialize in being wrong ! The wheels were freshly sandblasted, primed and painted. I pressume that someone bought a recently restored car and street rodded it.

    Here's the dimensions on these wheels:

    16" x 4 1/4" (bead)

    3 1/2" Center hole

    5 Lug, 5" bolt pattern

    10 "spokes"

    No hole for an alignment peg

    Do you nice folks have any thoughts on what they fit?
  • 66patrick6666patrick66
    Posts: 1,831Platinum Member
    Not likely a Mopar wheel. Mopars all had the locating lug hole (actually five!) until the 1967 model year, long after they got rid of the lug bolt
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  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,376Platinum Member
    They look relatively new. Perhaps front wheel drive ..looks like a big backset.
  • 66patrick6666patrick66
    Posts: 1,831Platinum Member
    Those might be GM wheels for a Toronado or an Eldorado, both front-drivers and both have a wheel similar to these.
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    And whether pigs have wings..."
  • James P.
    Posts: 444Platinum Member
    I appreciate your thoughts, but I'm positive that these are from the thirties. You'll note that they only have a 4 1/4" bead. The pre-war style 6.00 X 16 tires that they came with is about the only tire I know of that would be appropriate for that narrow a bead.
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,376Platinum Member
    Hey James.. You suppose they may be Cord wheels? Old ,but still FWD...
  • 66patrick6666patrick66
    Posts: 1,831Platinum Member
    Didn't think about a Cord, but that is probably right!
    "The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
    And whether pigs have wings..."
  • James P.
    Posts: 444Platinum Member
    Interesting possibility. I'll do some digging around!
  • jayd21jayd21
    Posts: 32Greasemonkey
    How about a Dodge truck? If there's no ridge along the edge for a tubeless tire then they're early wheels.
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  • ironman
    Posts: 36Greasemonkey
    your wheel is a 1936 Plymouth car and truck wheel they didn't have locating holes on the wheels in 36, the brake drums were flush and they used studs to hold them on instead of lugs and nuts. It also fits the 1936 REO Speedwagon pickup and the 1936 Mack JR pickup (both rare trucks) I have a Speedwagon Pic attached. The wheels that are on it in the photo are 1936 Dodge just slightly different from your wheel, I just liked the way they looked and had them kicking around. They are the same bolt pattern as your wheel without guide hole. Don't try to put 1936 mopar wheels on any other later year, the rivets on the newer drums will crack the wheel. I found that out the hard way 30 years ago with a 1936 dodge pickup that had 1937 drums on it.

    ironman
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  • 37 Terraplane#237 Terraplane#2
    Posts: 1,659Platinum Member
    Now that's a class act no matter what it is !!!
  • James P.
    Posts: 444Platinum Member
    ironman wrote:
    your wheel is a 1936 Plymouth car and truck wheel they didn't have locating holes on the wheels in 36, the brake drums were flush and they used studs to hold them on instead of lugs and nuts. It also fits the 1936 REO Speedwagon pickup and the 1936 Mack JR pickup (both rare trucks) I have a Speedwagon Pic attached. The wheels that are on it in the photo are 1936 Dodge just slightly different from your wheel, I just liked the way they looked and had them kicking around. They are the same bolt pattern as your wheel without guide hole. Don't try to put 1936 mopar wheels on any other later year, the rivets on the newer drums will crack the wheel. I found that out the hard way 30 years ago with a 1936 dodge pickup that had 1937 drums on it.

    ironman



    I'm afraid that you overlooked the 5" bolt patern that I mentioned in my description. My '36 Plymouth coupe does have wheel studs. However, my '36 Dodge coupe uses wheel bolts. This wheel has far too large of a bolt pattern to fit either car. Thanks for giving it a shot, though.