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Edmunds manifold for 8 cyl?
  • MikeWAMikeWA
    Posts: 1,440Platinum Member
    A little something for the well-heeled. . .

    ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Edmunds-Hudson-Straight-8-6-2x2-Aluminum-Intake-/190802686243?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6cb9f123

    Just looked back at the ebay posting, and they had a tape measure up by it- showed about 21 inches long. I'm thinking that manifold is for a 6, because I just shipped a Twin H manifold and it was about 23".

    Have never seen a "hi-rise" Edmunds.
  • TwinHTwinH
    Posts: 535Platinum Member
    Well,the shipping is not too terrible... Lol And they don't even know what it fits? Wow...
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,366Platinum Member
    Looks like a six to me.. only two singles and two double ports.
  • StillOutThereStillOutThere
    Posts: 420Gold Member
    It is titled Straight 8? 6 . I read that to mean he knows it fits a six but he does not know if it fits the eight. Nothing wrong there. In the text he says "Again this is either for a Hudson straight 6 or 8 cyl. you will need to make that call. " and says he is not familiar with these engines. What more do you want from the guy?

    How many of you Hudson guys can tell a Dodge and Plymouth flat 6 cylinder from a DeSoto and Chrysler flat 6 cylinder? Yeah, I thought so.
  • MikeWAMikeWA
    Posts: 1,440Platinum Member
    I wasn't criticizing the guy- he said it was sold to him as an 8, but he's not sure if its a 6 or an 8. Fair enough. Just posted it so the folks could get a look- I didn't mean to be snarky, and I don't think I was.
  • Geoff C., N.Z.Geoff C., N.Z.
    Posts: 2,267Platinum Member
    It's definitely an 8 cylinder manifold.
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • 50C8DAN50C8DAN
    Posts: 861Platinum Member
    I have one of these in much better condition and yes it is for an 8. Here is mine:

    Edmunds Hud8 manifold #1 photo 100_2539.jpg

    Edmunds Hud8 manifold #2 photo 100_2540.jpg

    Edmunds Hud8 manifold #3 photo 100_2541.jpg

    Edmunds Hud8 manifold #4 photo 100_2542.jpg

    This same guy had a Stu V 2x2 V8 Manifold for a Studebaker. Did not sell. Seems to be asking a lot but who knows.
  • drivergo2
    Posts: 196Expert Adviser
    I didnt even know they made any for a eight till about a month ago, A guy in seattle put a 51 with a 8 on craigs list. Said it had speed equip. on it. It was gone in a couple days, I asked on here and walt said he used to have some but left it all when he moved. John
  • oldhudsonsoldhudsons
    Posts: 1,725Platinum Member
    driver - Edmunds made some beautiful finned heads for the H8 too
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,366Platinum Member
    I should have seen the bolt holes.. a dead giveaway .
  • 48Sed
    Posts: 90Hitchhiker
    What carb# would you use on these manifolds?
  • Spencer YarrowSpencer Yarrow
    Posts: 219Gold Member
    Maybe there are a few new members who have not seen these pics I posted some time ago.

    Frank Kleinig produced it when he was racing Hudsons here in AUS. it is the only one I know of but maybe someone has one hanging on there wall just like I have.

    It is not for sale at any price.

    Spencer
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  • Huddy42Huddy42
    Posts: 1,000Platinum Member
    Top offer Spencer, $10.00 scrap value.lol, do you have it and where did you get it.??
  • 50C8DAN50C8DAN
    Posts: 861Platinum Member
    You can use Carter WGCs or WGDs without any issue. I have set it up but never have actually hooked it up. The issue for stepdowns is the height under the hood. I think that short air cleaners will work but I have not fully checked it out.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,448Platinum Member
    Spencer-

    Pardon my ignorance, but what are all of the blocked off holes with the removeable plugs?

    Cool Head, by the way. And I'll beat Pete's price and give you $12.50 (US). LOL!
    Russell

    http://www.52hornetvert.blogspot.com
  • terraplane8terraplane8
    Posts: 357Platinum Member
    Spencer I have a similar looking one-piece aluminium head for a Hudson Eight. It has HUDSON in big letters on the top. Who could have made this? Will post an image when I get the time.
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,366Platinum Member
    Spencer,
    When was he racing? Late 30's ?? Is there any other mechanical data available to see what he did to his engines to equip them for racing?
  • Spencer YarrowSpencer Yarrow
    Posts: 219Gold Member
    Les
    Not enough zeros on the end of your offer

    I picked it up near Grafton many years ago on the remains of a 30 roadster that Bob Powell gave me a lead on, it couldn't have been used on a that motor as a few of the head studs were too short.

    Maybe you can chime in on Frank and Clive Gibson's history in Australian motor sport as you know much more of it than me.

    I spoke to Clive about the head and he remembered them being made but didn't know how many.

    It hangs on the wall of my shed with a few other bits and pieces.

    RJ

    The plugs I believe that is where the sand was removed after casting.

    The way our $ is compared to yours sorry not quite enough $s.

    Terra 8

    Can't help on your head but a pic. may help someone identify it.

    Spencer
  • Huddy42Huddy42
    Posts: 1,000Platinum Member
    Anyone wishing to know more about Frank Kleinig and Clive Gibson, just google their names and it's all there.

    One of our main racing circuits here in Australia is called Mount Panorama and the following applies to that track.
    One of the articles tells how Conrod straight got it's name after Frank put a conrod through the block on "main straight" as it was then called, after that they named it "Conrod straight".
  • terraplane8terraplane8
    Posts: 357Platinum Member
    Here are some photos. It doesn't have HUDSON on it, only what is shown.

    It is 50mm thick which is 1 31/32".
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  • Huddy42Huddy42
    Posts: 1,000Platinum Member
    The parts book shows 165603, suits 1946/1950 8 cyl does not show 165605, typical Hudson parts books.
  • 53jetman53jetman
    Posts: 871Platinum Member
    The number 165605 is the casting number from which the produced part number 165603.
    Jerry
    email: HudsonJetman@mail.com
    2nd Generation Hud-Nut
    HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954
    HET Registrar of all Hudson Jets
  • terraplane8terraplane8
    Posts: 357Platinum Member
    So is my head a standard or optional Hudson head or an aftermarket one?
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,571Platinum Member
    It should be a factory hi compresion head (Alcoa made them). Also helps for better heat transfer . Lot of guys dont like them due to head gasket failures. But if properly installed and not overheated I wouldnt worry ,
    Roger
    Retired Tech.
  • 50C8DAN50C8DAN
    Posts: 861Platinum Member
    I have had a factory Al head on my 8 since '05 without incident.

    Also it appears someone did buy the Edmunds 8 manifold for a whopping price of $1,375!
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