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Hudson body photos
  • lostmindlostmind
    Posts: 516Gold Member
    How would you like to start a restoration with one of these?
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  • HudzillaHudzilla
    Posts: 1,285Platinum Member
    Been there done that. lol. Model 28A Federal hauling a bunch of soon to be stepdowns. Great shot. Where did you find these??
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    These pictures were on the forum years ago. They were Life pictures that finally got released to the public. At the time of their release, there was a great debate about the logistics of Hudson convertible production, mainly due to my prodding and pestering, at the time.

    The first pic, that shows a convertible body on the bottom and rear of the trailer, was the picture that proved the rumor that convertibles were built off of the main line and in their own room, by showing the completeness of the car. These bodies are being moved from the body plant on Gratiot and trucked to the main factory to be finished.

    I tried blowing it up to determine what year these bodies were, but was unsuccessful. I believe it is pre-'52, though by the rear bumper cut-out.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    Another very interesting item of mention (to me, anyway), is that the bodies do not appear to be "in white", but rather, pre-painted. That would seem to me to make staging the bodies on the line a great lesson in organization!
  • Ken U-Tx
    Posts: 1,102Platinum Member
    Would be either 1950 or 1951. Rear windows in the sedans are the larger 50-51 opening. Dodge truck on the street side is 1949-50.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    Nice try, but I think the truck analogy is inconclusive, Ken. '48 & '49 Dodge essentially the same from the front. Also, it's very dangerous trying to date photos by using trucks as examples, as oftentimes earlier, unsold trucks could be titled as later year's examples.

    Great spot on the back, window, though! I love it, we're narrowing it down.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    Answer to your original question, Roy, is YOU BET! Would've been loads cheaper than what I did.
  • lostmindlostmind
    Posts: 516Gold Member
    Russell , I thought of you when I spotted that Convertible. I was browsing
    and came across them. There are many great photos released by Life.
    There were also photos of Chrysler products being hauled the same way.
    I thought they were coming from a body plant somewhere.
    Don't know the details , just thought it was worth sharing.
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,042Platinum Member
    How would you like to look in your rear view and see that truck bumper coming at you. :D followed by :((

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • 1951hornethardtop
    Posts: 270Expert Adviser
    50 or 51 do to the size of the side window behind rear door. Its hard to tell but I would choose 51 because 50s had a split back window.
  • James P.
    Posts: 444Platinum Member
    It seems to me that the convertible is the only one with glass in it. Am I correct on that ? If, in fact the others don't have glass in them yet, then they could all still be '50s as easily as '51s because the rear window divide wouldn't be installed yet.
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,377Platinum Member
    The firewall has a large hole on the drivers side for the wire loom ,I am presently replaceing a drivers side cowl section on a 49 and the donar car is a 51. The 51 has the large hole where the 49 had a much smaller one. Don't know what the fifty was like. The rear bumper cut out appears to be lower than 48-51,which would make it 52.
  • Park_WPark_W
    Posts: 2,052Platinum Member
    Looks like my '51 ragtop on that truck . . . don't care for the tan top with a light-colored paint, though. But I'd take it in a heartbeat!
  • James P.
    Posts: 444Platinum Member
    It's my recollection that converts were only available with tan tops initially, and I believe for quite a while after that. I took a quick look in a Feb 1-'53 ( '48 - '53) parts book and in Group HH2 there is a note in there about stating the color of the top when ordering the rear window curtain. This was to make sure that the color of the fabric surrounding the rear window your were about to order would match the rest of the top. That means for sure that by that point different colored tops were available. None of that means much, though, because the convertible body we see in the picture is light colored and could well have been ordered with a tan top even if dark ones were available.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    James-

    '48 & '49-- tops came in black or gray (with black boot)
    '50 thru '54-- tops came in black, maroon or tan (after '50, boots matched interior)

    But you are right, it means very little, as you could probably order a car with whatever color top you wanted.
  • nick snick s
    Posts: 696Platinum Member
    russell, a gray topped car came with a gray boot in 48.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    Hmmm. I feel like Johnny Carson . . . I did not know that!
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,575Platinum Member
    I can shed some light on the 1950 models .Attatch you see a page from a 1950 dealers price book I have. This page involves the convetable top options,
    Roger
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    Retired Tech.
  • 51hornetA51hornetA
    Posts: 2,338Platinum Member
    Double post
    www.hudsonmotorcar.org
  • 51hornetA51hornetA
    Posts: 2,338Platinum Member
    I say they are 1951 bodies from the rear tail light cut outs and the fact there is a 1951 sedan in the parking lot.

    http://www.hudsonmotorcar.org/coppermine/displayimagepopup/pid=676/fullsize=1.html
    www.hudsonmotorcar.org
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    Sean-
    Except that that is not the same load of cars . . .
  • 1951hornethardtop
    Posts: 270Expert Adviser
    Diffintly 51s the 52-53 had a longated window on the side behind the back door unlike the 48-51s. Even tho these dont have glass in them the 50s, except Pacemakers, had a split back window and there was a strip of the body that ran through the center of the back window that the split window set in and the chrome pieces screwed into. . Just my oppinion.
  • 51hornetA51hornetA
    Posts: 2,338Platinum Member
    Yes there is a series of 5 Life pictures taken the same day of cars moving from the body plant to the factory. All the pictures show 1951's being transported. I used to have the labels for the pics that said when in 51 the pics were taken. Not close to my stuff to look right now.
    www.hudsonmotorcar.org
  • Park_WPark_W
    Posts: 2,052Platinum Member
    " ..., it means very little, as you could probably order a car with whatever color top you wanted."

    RL, I think you're right there. I bought my first '51 Hornet convertible from its second owner in early '56. Based on wear, the top looked like it was the original, and it was white.
  • Tallent RTallent R
    Posts: 1,575Platinum Member
    Very true Park , its fairly well known that no matter what the book said . If a customer wanted a particular item that was not "Normaly Offered" and would pay for it he got it,
    Roger
    Retired Tech.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,458Platinum Member
    I've often said, the independents had to go the extra distance to sell cars. If that meant putting a purple top on a car, because a customer said, "I'll buy it if I can get a purple top . . .", then Hudson would everything within reason to sell a car.

    And as soon as someone comments, "There was never a purple top on a Hudson convertible", I guarantee it, one will show up out of the woodwork.