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Electrolysis vs. Electroplating?
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I have done a bit of electrolysis (or what I think has been electrolysis). However, in my 'search' for a better & more reliable and substantial power source, I seem to run into references and documentation concerning electroplating.
On the surface, these appear to be two totally separate and distinct process (?). However, from what I see - they are very, very similiar. Both use electric current (usually DC), and both have 'sacrificial' metals...
Electrolysis usually uses a water medium (sometimes with chemicals);
Electroplating usually uses a combination of water, chemicals, acids, etc., as a medium;
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Well Electroplating transfers metal molocules from one place to another. Electrolysis causes a chemical / physical change to take place in a metal due to a chemical reaction.
This is my understanding anyway,
RogerRetired Tech. -
Hi Roger - That is my understanding as well.
However - Both processes use the same or similiar DC current, and the chemical actions/reactions should be similiar. The sacrificial material (attached to the positive side/current) is drawn to the target object/material by the negative side/current.
Obviously I need to do more reading/studying on this - there's got to be something more to it that I just am not seeing.
My primary reason/focus was a question in my mind - could a rectifier/converter (used in electroplating) be used to supply the power/current for electrolysis? -
Well In electrolysis I think the theory is nothing moves from place to place. Where in the plating process metal is actualy transferred molecularly thru the solution from place to place.
As far as power goes I'm sure a rectifier / convertor would work. A battery is better sue to the smoother current. The ideal is a battery with a charger / rectifier to keep the charge up . The battery will smooth out the pulses in the rectified power.
RogerRetired Tech. -
Electrolysis; the lysis means splitting, for example of water molecules into oxygen and hydrogen gases. In the case of metals or other materials, you are providing electrons through electrical energy to make a non-spontaneous reaction occur.
Reactions can be spontaneous or non-spontaneous. For the non-spontaneous ones, you need to provide energy, hence you use an electrolysis cell and provide the energy to cause the intended reaction to happen. electrons flow from the anode to the cathode based on the electromotive force of the material involved.
Electroplating; you're moving electrons around which has the effect of causing some metals to become their non-ionized elemental form (metal -- the gain electrons) and they plate out on a substrate (the cathode), whereas the other metals are ionized (lose electrons) and generally go into the solution medium at the anode. Plating occurs at the cathode. Electrons flow from anode to cathode.
So you're really right about what you're doing -- you have metal atoms losing and gaining electrons. Your anode is the sacrificial metal that is "atomized" through ionization which allows the metal atoms to go into the solution medium where they gain electrons and plate out as a metal on the cathode surface (the object you want to chrome plate for example). Triple plating process would involve copper, nickel, and some chromium. Nickel give the shiny "chrome" look while chromium gives the pieces their corrosion resistance. Copper is the underlying metal. The process for doing triple plating would not be spontaneous by just dipping in the solution of the various metals (insufficient electromotive force), so you use the electrolysis cell and provide the needed energy to make the reaction happen.
