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- 1951hornethardtop February 13
- 54SuperWasp February 13
- Browniepetersen February 13
- Ken U-Tx February 13
- walts garage-53 February 13
Brake shoes for my 54
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Are the shoes on the back the same size as on the front? Are they available?Brownie
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The fronts are 2-1/4' wide, and the rears are 1-3/4' wide. a guy on eBay sells both sets. You can also have your current set relined, if the shoes are not damaged.
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You can go to any auto store and get #55 for the rears, only fronts available are 263 but must have the anchor pin adjusted using Walt's way to fit them. Walt.
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Walt, the front and back seem to be the same size, so what is different about them that makes them so they will not work, and what would I need to do to get the 263's to work--how do I adjust the anchor pin?Brownie
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Didnt the short wheel base cars have the same on front and back?? (119")
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The car in question is a LWB Hornet Special Club Coupe, thus it has the 2-1/4" X 11 " drums in front and the 1-3/4" X 11 drums in the rear. What makes you think they are the same size front and rear? You need to measure them to be sure. The difference is that the drums in the back are 1/2" narrower than the fronts and thus the shoe and lining are 1/2" narrower than the fronts. Is it clear now? Also the wheel cylinders in the rear are 15/16" diameter bore, whereas the fronts are 1-1/8" bore.....this is because their is more weight on the front end than the rear, especially during braking when the weight transfers to the front. If the rear brakes were the same size as the fronts, they would lock up prematurely in hard braking, making the car skid sideways.
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The 1950-1952 Pacemaker had the 1-3/4" shoes and drums on both the front and rear. The 1952 Wasp and the 1953 Super Wasp had the same 2-1/4" X 11" drums on the front as the Hornets. The 1953 & 1954 Wasp also had the 1-3/4" X 11 drums front and rear.
It is possible that someone put the 1-3/4" shoes on the front of your 6D Hornet Special, but the 2-1/4" front shoes definitely will not work on the back drums. -
@Ken: Thanks for the infos. Just to be sure, when you talk about 53-54 Wasp having the same size drums front and rear, does this include the 54 Super Wasp? Michel
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Browniepetersen, the anchoring point is larger at the top, while Hudson shoes are narrow at the top. So the anchor point has to be moved down. If you have my tech tip books go to Volume two (2) to page 15 and read how to move the anchor pin. Walt.
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OK guys, this is what I did this morning. I took the original rear shoes and set them on a QMS and ran the dimentions on them. I had the machine draw out a blueprint of the original shoe. I then set up the new shoes (same as front) and machined them to the dimensions of the blueprint. The quality of the new shoes with respect to hole location, all the holes were there but the new shoes hole locations with respect to true position was as far as + - .030. This also included changing the width of the shoe to the 1/34" size. It was intresting that the bonded on pad was far from what we would call a good bonding job. Next we rounded up the drums and matched each one to the shoe set that was mounted. We rebuilt the wheel units including machining all of the mating surfaces, reassembled everything and run some friction tests. I think we are good to go... Thanks for all your input....Brownie

