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ra4jumb

The start of my 34 H project with some more to follow, things are moving along and parts getting prepped, primed and tagged, cleaned painted etc. Things are rolling along as you can see.

commodorecollector

That looks like it is going to be a fun project. Looking forward seeing you progress in the restoration of your 34 Hudson.
May I ask what did you use for media blasting? I would like to blast my project at home to save some money instead of having to outsource it.

hudsontech

Good luck - it'll be nice to see another '34 Hudson on the road.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

faustmb

Very nice, is that the one from EBay awhile back?

JHudson

Looks like your off to a good start! Go Man Go!

Does anyone know if the front fender supports are 1934 only? My 35 has short ones or am I missing some parts? Looks like it would give fender much more support.

ra4jumb

Yes this was the one Carl and Jim had on Ebay a while ago. I was working on some of the brake system parts earlier today and cleaning up some more things for it. I try to do something on it every day even if it is small. It started off life as a 35 T as far as I know and looks like a never completed late 50s rod project. The frame and floors were chopped up so a new frame was in order anyhow and I was going to do a 34 anyhow so mating the 2 seemed logical.

ra4jumb

This past week looking through the things that I have and need, looks like I need at least 2 shocks, as I have one good front and one rear but I think I have a pair of rears on the way. Brake cables are quite frozen and rears are frayed so those are on the list. I am cleaning and reinstalling the rest of the brake parts and working on other trinkets trying to make it a truly rolling chassis again. So if anyone out there has a line on some shocks please let me know. Thanks Mark

Huddy42

JHudson,
The fender supports on 1935 are shorter than the 1934 ones, I have restored both, so can say for that sure.

oldhudsons

my friend with a '33 T8 conv. was able to find a place back east that made him new brake cables.
I had the chassis of my '33 T8 conv. "powder coated" & it only cost a couple of hundred $$, not sure what they'd charge now as was done over 5 years ago.

hudsontech

You might want to check out this bulletin in the online library:

1942 - 44 Bulletin Service for Service Station Agreement Holders, Bulletin Nr. 76 Brake
Cable Identification.

It's in the 1940-1947 Bulletin section

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

bob ward

Interesting detail difference between the 34 and 35 body mounts. The front mount seems to be the same, but the centre and rear mounts are a different style.

The chassis is upside down in these photos. First photo is of the front and centre mounts, the second photo is of the rear mount. And while I'm at it, a shot of the shorter 35 front fender supports.

ra4jumb, a PM is on its way

ra4jumb

I know that there are differences in springs and the entire cable system is different for 35 so I believe the cable to be 34H in the front and 34 all in the rear. I noticed the different front braces were different as well, as similar as the two years are the differences are surprising. The dash area is different due to the crank out window, the rear fenders, hood, shell, trim, and I am sure I am just scratching the surface. I have the car down to just the body and the butchered frame that was under it.

ra4jumb

A pic for Bob as it was easier to just post on here.

ra4jumb

The battery box I fabricated from scratch.

ra4jumb

My latest progress.

hudsontech

Great looking work!!!!! The final assembly should be spectacular.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

ra4jumb

Thanks, a long way off but I am charging ahead with every spare moment to work on some part of it. We will see how long as I have never built anything from pieces of so many cars or starting literally from the ground up so far parts from 4 cars that I have and a bunch of stuff from about 6 others and ebay and swap meet stuff from who knows how many. So far it is fun though, trying to get the details right as I go like I have with some of my GTOs. Mark

54SuperWasp

You're getting along pretty well. Very nice work! Will watch it with interest. Michel

ra4jumb

Thanks Drag link and one backing plate were today's project. when I get the brakes back together I will post some pics. Mark

ra4jumb

Here is my latest progress, it will all have to come apart again to replace the cables but for now it is together and all is off my bench so I can move on. The column and all associated parts are still in the works. The shocks are modern ones that have similar travel that needed some adjustment (not much though) and should work well. The replacement column is in there but the tube and all is yet to come.

ra4jumb

To answer an earlier question that I missed I used plain sand from our local sandblast supply place I think triple 0 grade. Doing these frames takes a really long time, I think I had about 20 or so hours into it, there are a lot of hidden spaces in it.

faustmb

Looks great Mark, not wasting any time on it I see :). Keep the pics coming !

Terraplane33

Nice project !
It looks like there is an ET8 just behind !

ra4jumb

Yes that is the one I just finished putting back together, mostly original paint, all original interior etc that was partially apart. Drove it for the first time in Nov. A couple of little things left and it will be rolling regularly for the first time since the early 50's. Mark

ra4jumb

Well I finished the column up and I am working on the steering wheel, dug out the transmission, started cleaning that up looks nice inside and shifts well, and am in the process of working on the pan between the front fenders and the rear body pan. Oh and I found this in a box that came with the Conv and gave it a bit of a clean up. More to follow...

53jetman

ra4jumb - If you will look on the lower right side cowl of your '33 you will see this very same tag indicating the body was built by Hudson.

ra4jumb

The Tag on the 33 is different but in the same place if my memory serves me right.....Now I will have to go out in the garage, you have me thinking. Here is what today is shaping up. Yes that is not a 34 trans, it is a 37 as my dad has told me it is a better one to use as it is a bit tougher. Mark

ra4jumb

This little tag is what resides on my 33 in the same place as the other one I have pictured, I was so curious I had to go an look.

53jetman

The one on mygh 1933 Model K Essex-Terraplane Coach is just like the one pictured in your 1:40 PM post. Seems strange that they would be using two different styles of tags.

RL Chilton

Jerry-

Different body plants?

essexcoupe3131

Had both of those badges (that come with the coupe) and I had them both gold coated as well as the screws
it wasn't expensive If I remember it was only $40-00 NZ$ for all of them and you don't have to polish them on a regular basis put them on 4 years ago and still look great
Mike

ra4jumb

Between Toms and my cars (Tom has 3 33 project cars) they all have the rectangular tag. All of my project bits and pieces for 34/5 have the triangle. I wonder if it is something phased in late in the production run?

ra4jumb

I have one the shifter is a bit pitted so if I could find a better one it would be good. I had my son helping and while the gears were soaking to limber them up a bit (this has sat since the 60's) and his scraping the goo off is not as careful as I would like so plywood seemed like the ticket.

ra4jumb

Just started working on the wheel had a bunch of cracking going on.

53jetman

By 1933 & 1934, Hudson had only one body plant. Altho the roadsters and convertibles were farmed out to another builder during this period, but all closed car bodys were built by Hudson at their body plant in Detroit.

ra4jumb

I was curious so I looked at Toms project cars as one of his is higher in ser no and I figured it might have the triangle tag, but his coupe, 4 door and conv coupe all have the rectangle tag. He was telling me the company that did the Conv conversions of these cars(Briggs I think) put a small metal tag on the firewall with a number (I was told there does not seem to be any order to the numbers) after the conversion.

bent metal

Can you tell me more about the tag on the firewall? A picture would be awesome!

As for the outside cowl tags. All '34s I can remember had the triangle, just like yours. The '33s had the rectangle, just like yours,...and the '33s are always crooked, just like yours.

AND,...Fantastic work on that battery box! :)

ra4jumb

Thanks I had fun bending up the parts, a vice, hammer, and a drill can make some cool stuff. I do not have a tag on my wreck that I know of (now I will have to take a better look) I can probably look at Tom's car at some point. The tags, well that is what I have found so far but that does not mean that there was not a late year changeover or something else that went on. who knows.

ra4jumb

My first attempt at fixing a steering wheel, I got spoiled with the 33 as it was perfect as it sat, not so much on this one. On the way to a mend though, but still needs more TLC.

ra4jumb

Here is phase 2 of this project. I had to build a good sized piece of the bottom of it, still has a ways to go but moving forward.

ra4jumb

What I have before painting and polishing it a bit.

ESSX28-1

Great job on restoring the steering wheel. Presume you've thought about electrical contacts for the horn.

ra4jumb

Yes I have, easier to go it with my Dremel and clean up the center after (or at least I think so) I put some paint to it today and will take a picture of it later. It is not perfect but close, close enough for me anyway. I noticed a couple of very small (head of a pin) depressions in the wheel, sanded them most of the way out though, we will see how it looks all done and back on there though. I was worried as I don't like how most wheels look when painted, so hopefully this comes out ok.

ra4jumb

This is what I ended up with as a final result.

54SuperWasp

Thanks fot the pics. Seems the whole car will be very well done! Michel

ra4jumb

Thanks for the vote of confidence, I try to be very through and on other projects I have been inspired by others projects, so I like to share my small steps too.

ra4jumb

Not too much lately, mounted the wheel and want to build a pulled to remove this type of wheel. Went over this one more time but still more work to eliminate all traces of any pits etc. I know for the most part it will not be seen, but I will know how it looks. I guess that is OCD, or something like that.

TwinH

OCD = Old Car Disorder...

StillOutThere

The convertible bodies are from Briggs and should NOT have the "Hudson Built Steel Body" ovaled triangle tag but rather only a Briggs stamped tag with a body number mounted on the flat face of the firewall. The Hud-Built tags are on closed cars because indeed Hudson built those.
My '34 Terraplane convert has no exterior tag, only the Briggs tag and your 34 Hud should be done the same way.

ra4jumb

I have wondered what would be correct as I have been lead to believe that both the tag did not come on these cars and that it did. From what I understand the cars were converted by Briggs but not truly built by Briggs, they started off with standard coupes that went to Briggs for conversion. When I spoke to Jim after he finished his he has a tag on it but was not sure if it was supposed to or not. I would bet that the closed coupes had the tag from the factory, the question in my mind would be was that omitted when the body went to Briggs? Sounds to me like your take is it was. Is your car an unrestored car or one that has a known history? Not trying to be a smartA-- just trying to understand better how to make the car right. That tag was in a box of parts that came off this car and from what I understand there was no parts cars involved with this mess that Ive got. From what I have been told there were also very limited number of colors available and the hudson Conv was not available in all trim lines based on the literature that is out there. Based on the struggling times when these cars were built my guess is that if you had the money you could buy one in any color that was available though.

StillOutThere

Yes, "converted" by Briggs would be a more accurate way of stating it. One would think that if new coupe bodies were being trucked over to Briggs that they would have had primer only and there would be no point, especially during the Depression, of adding the $1 (at the time) nickel plated brass "Hudson" tag.
My '34 T conv was given a light restoration back some 50 years ago (when standards were much lower!). Pretty much has a known history post-WWII. It has had recent engine rebuilt and fresh convertible top and tires but body is still the last restoration. Oh, and new Canadian runningboard mats.
Most cars of any make in those years had very limited colors available relative to body styles. My Terra was originally monotone Steel Dust (sort of a blue/green-toned silver). Some manufacturer's paint chip charts from the era will relate colors to body styles. Sometimes mentioned in factory sales literature as well. But yes, in Depression years, if they could make a sale of a car by painting it special order color, they certainly were going to do so.

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