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In this Discussion
- 1049superg October 2012
- DocHubler October 2012
- ESSX28-1 October 2012
- Geoff C., N.Z. October 2012
- lostmind October 2012
- Nevada Hudson October 2012
- Oldfarmer1947gmailcom October 2012
- PAULARGETYPE October 2012
- Tallent R October 2012
STARTER BENDIX STICKING
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HI ALL I'M HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH MY 50 PACEMAKER CV IT IS 308 HORNET POWERED WITH TWIN H WHEN I GO TO START THE CAR I HAVE HAD THE STARTER BENDIX STICK IN THE FLYWHEEL NOW I HAVE REPLACED THE BENDIX AS WELL AS THE STARTER MOTOR WHEN I INSTALLED IT AFTER REBULIDING IT STARTED RIGHT UP WITH NO PROBLEMS BUT THE NEXT TIME I WENT TO TAKE THE CAR OUT SAME THING BENDIX STUCK I'M GOING TO TRY LOOSENING IT UP AND RETIGHTING IT AND TRY AND START IT BUT THOUGHT I WOULD ASK THE ALL KNOWING BUNCH HERE IF ANY ONE'S EVER HAD THIS KIND OF PROBLEM ( COULD THE ENGINE BEING OUT OF TIME BE THE PROBLEM) I CHECKED OUT THE RING ON THE FLY WHEEL IT LOOKS FINE I HAND CRANKED IT ALL THE WAY AROUND AND SAW NOTHING WRONG
I'M STUCK AS WELL AS THE BENDIX
THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
HUDSONLY
PAULARGETYPE -
Paul , I've had that problem when using a 6 Volt starter with a 12 volt system. Not sure of your set up.The other thing I ran into was the studs were bent.Also had the nuts on the back side
come loose. But you have had the starter out and most likely checked those.
I would say it's some sort of alignment problem.The front plates get bent if the through bolts loosen up. Good luck.
Roy -
That top starter bolt has to be that speacial shoulder bolt/stud to make proper alignment. It can be done without one but its not easy ,
RogerRetired Tech. -
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR COMENTS
I HAVE A 6 VOLT SYSTEM BUT THE TROUBLE STARTED AFTER I HAD A DEAD BATTERY AND WE JUMPED IT WITH A 12 VOLT JUMPER PACK
I WILL CHECK THE BOLTS ON THE OTHER SIDE I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT AND I'M ALMOS SURE I INSTALLED SHOLDERED BOLTS WHEN I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER BUT THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO I'LL CHECK IT OUT TOMMROW
THIS CAR HAS BEEN TOGETHER 10 YEARS WITH OUT ANY THING LIKE THIS EVER BEING A PROBLEM ??? -
Have the same problem. There are two fixed bolts, and one is loose( wobbles). That happened the same way as yours, when I jumped it with a12 volt. Big job to remove the bolts.Those are special bolts.The starter is on tight but moves a fraction and that causes the bendix to stick in the flywheel. Grab the fan belt to pop it out of the flywheel. Maybe someone here has a solution.
Oh, Paul know where I can get the airconditioned decal or sticker that is under the dash on the plastic cover for the airconditioner for a 56 Hudson? -
I SENT YOU A MESSAGE ABOUT THE DECAL I HAVE THEM
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If that is what has happened - that it shifted on the bolt. You should be able to move it back to where it was. After all as you said it was in the right spot till you jolted it with the 12 -volt battery pack. Loosen the starter bolt and put a small prybar behind the starter and push it out as you retighten bolt. It may not even visibly move but you dont need much,
RogerRetired Tech. -
well, this is familiar but for a different reason. I just had my 50 Pacemaker sedan get the bendix stuck, and I mean stuck on the flywheel tonight as I was trying to leave work. My fault because I didn't let the bendix throw out all the way before I hit the starter button again when the engine didn't fire off the first time. had to get under the car, and had a friend help me since I had no tools. Took the cover off the bottom (4 bolts), then had to take the nuts off the front and back sides of starter. Bendix easily released once the starter was loosened from its moorings. Then I got most of the nuts tightened reasonably well but will have to go back and do it right. This is because it got dark out there and I had to get home! Anyway, she fired right up twice in a row, no problem. Hope I didn't damage the ring gear.
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I wouldnt think one incident like that would hurt it ,
RogerRetired Tech. -
Yeah, I think it will be fine. I just need to learn some patience!
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An old trick to unstick the starter - put the car in top gear and rock it back and forth, emphasising the rear push. This turns the motor over backward and unmeshes the Bendix from the ring gear.If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
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A few years ago the Bendix stuck on my 1950 Pacemaker. Couldn't figure how to unstick it. I posted my starter dilemma on this forum and someone suggested doing just like Geoff suggests here. Did the trick immediately and haven't had a problem since.
Dan -
I just grab and turn the fan belt, and it just pops out.
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Paul... What was your fix????Oldfarmer1947@gmail.com
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Well, I tried rocking and popping it in reverse and forward gears and just wouldn't come undone until I loosened up the starter. Having to get under a stepdown on the road is a good measure of how the weight loss program is coming along! I think I failed that one!
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Easer to buy an Essex with 20inch wheels than to loose weight!!!Dave Y
New Zealand -
I HAVEN'T DONE ANY THING YEAT WE HAD A WEDDING AND HAD TO GET THE 34SD READY TO GO SO THE PACEMAKER SAT FOR MOST OF ALL LAST WEEK I PLAN ON GETTING TO IOT ON TUESDAY AS YOU CAN SEE THE WEDDING WENT OFF WITH OUT ANY TROUBLE BRIDE ANS GROOM DELIVERED IN GREAT SHAPE!!
JOHN'S WEDDING 034.JPG3072 x 2048 - 2M
