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Custom 1950 Commodore Brougham Coupe - on Ebay -
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    Located in Las Vegas, Nevada. This is a custom coupe, and has been highly modified from original - mechanically. Not really an auction - "Buy-it-Now" is $55k (or submit best offer...)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Hudson-Commodore-1950-Hudson-Commodore-Brougham-Hudson-Very-Rare_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQitemZ4600982792QQrdZ1

    Sorry, pictures don't want to appear correctly -
  • jsrail
    Posts: 1,534Platinum Member
    Looks like a clean car. I think it seems to be nicely done, though not sure if he'll get $55K for it. Though I talked to a guy in Texas who has been offered $35K for his camaro clipped 52 Hornet (and it wasn't anywhere nice as that, at that time). I hope he gets want he wants for it. I'm not wild about the colors, though thats really subjective. I don't like the original Hudson with the top one color and another color below the window line. Ugh! Mine's black with a white top! Looks like an old cop car from Mayberry RFD!



    Would a Commodore or Super Six front end fit on my Pacemaker? I like the longer front end. The Pacemaker has a shorter wheelbase, but I'm curious where they shortened it compared to the other models. Anyone know? I like the later year motors as they can move down the road, get excellent mileage, and good parts availability. A flathead may be able to do 100mph, but breakdown outside of town, and I wonder how long before you find someone who can work on a flathead anywhere nearby! I live in a heavily populated metro area and Al Safrahn (sorry if I killed the spelling Al) (45 min drive away) is the only guy around that I've found to work on these Hudson flathead engines. And besides, can a flathead get 24-26mpg? I seriously doubt it.



    Anyway, hope he gets good money for it..........Jay
  • hudsonjeff
    Posts: 55Senior Contributor
    Short Wheelbase Cars Have An Indentation In The Cowl Panel Which Alows The Motor To Sit Farther Back. They Are The Same From The Doors Back As The Longer Cars. I Would Believe The Sub Frame Would Have To Be Changed To Accomodate The Longer Fenders.
  • jsrail
    Posts: 1,534Platinum Member
    Thanks hudsonjeff, looks like I have to make a call to the Fatman as they said their stub frame was the same for all stepdown Huds from 48-53 including the Pacemaker. I wanna make sure its going to fit before I go sawing off the original frame!



    Jay
  • hudsonkid
    Posts: 2,298Platinum Member
    you would need something specific for the pacemaker. It is shorted by several inches... BUT... you could always make it a commodore/super just by getting another front end, from a donor car, and go from there. If fatman is making front clips for hudsons, I bet it's for a LWB car. maybe you got to shorten it at a specified point to make it fit?
  • jsrail
    Posts: 1,534Platinum Member
    hudsonkid wrote:
    you would need something specific for the pacemaker. It is shorted by several inches... BUT... you could always make it a commodore/super just by getting another front end, from a donor car, and go from there. If fatman is making front clips for hudsons, I bet it's for a LWB car. maybe you got to shorten it at a specified point to make it fit?



    I called Fatmans yesterday and they said they had never had an issue with their stub frames, but did say that if it didn't fit they would care of it, for example, make a new stub to fit. They were very helpful and as soon as I get the motor out of the way, I can get better measurements.



    Jay
  • hudsonkid
    Posts: 2,298Platinum Member
    Hey, my dad was thinking of a possibility of using a fatman frame for the 40 chevy he bought. Good Stuff?
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    hudsonkid wrote:
    Hey, my dad was thinking of a possibility of using a fatman frame for the 40 chevy he bought. Good Stuff?
    Here are some reviews. They seem to go both ways, but the 'theme' appears to be that their support fluctuates (probably dependent upon who answers the phone).
    http://hotrodders.com/cgibin/rls/magpie/do/display.cgi?product-sku=00053&find-lower-limit=21&icon-status=

    I will say this -
    - They appear to support more than just the generic/popular rodding platforms (very few do this);
    - I've heard more than one complaint concerning their power-assisted rack & pinion steering systems - My guess is that they are getting rebuilt units (not new) and that they are either not done too well, or are very 'shelf worn'. Don't be surprised if they try to 'steer' you away from this option...
  • jsrail
    Posts: 1,534Platinum Member
    hudsonkid wrote:
    Hey, my dad was thinking of a possibility of using a fatman frame for the 40 chevy he bought. Good Stuff?



    I haven't installed mine yet of course, but a look at all the components statisfies me at this point. Everytime I have called with questions (about 3 times now) they have seemed to be very helpful and knowledgeable. I have seen some negative comments on hotrodder.com but these were a couple years old. I personally don't know wether any one system is better than another. People will tell you that TCI, Fatman, or Heidts, etc. are better than the other, but who really knows. My power rack system is new and I don't think they are using rebuilts anymore. I wanted the power rack when I placed the order, so they didn't have a chance to persuade or disuade me on that. They do have set ups for more cars than I've seen anybody else advertise. And they were very helpful with my situation regarding the front frame length and are very interested to know if there is a fitting problem on the Pacemaker.



    Bottom line is, I don't know if they are better or worse than anybody else, but I've been very happy so far.



    Jay
  • mrsbojiggermrsbojigger
    Posts: 586Platinum Member
    I have the Fatman Mustang II in my '47 Ford convertible. Great ride. About 5 years ago I purchased their complete hub-to-hub unit with power steering. The parts were well made and welded correctly. These parts went together on the chassis without a hitch. The only problem I had was with the rebuilt rack which was really from Napa Parts but shipped from Fatman with the complete boxed unit. We just could not get it installed. Fatman worked with us for a week trying to identify the problem with many phone calls between us and them and also with Napa at the retail and factory level. Turns out that Napa had sent the correct part numbered box but the power rack shipped in the box (which was sealed when we received it) was for something else and was not Fatman's fault. If it had been a new power rack there would not have been this problem.
    www.themodernartist.com
  • jsrail
    Posts: 1,534Platinum Member
    I just purchased the article done by the webrodder.com guy on a Fatman install on a Hornet. 46HudsonPU turned me on to this article which is excellent at letting you know exactly what to do on a step-down install. But since the author is worried about copyright issues, I couldn't print the article. For $10 though I got it and now have a print version I can take to the weld shop when we do the install.



    Jay