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Engine oil Type?
  • michelegiudicimichelegiudici
    Posts: 17Hitchhiker
    Hello! Can you tell me please what kind of engine oil is best for my 1954 308 Hudson?
    Engine with about 5,000 miles.
    Temperature in Switzerland, from 25 ° to 85 °.
    THANKS!
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,759Moderator
    Almost any modern motor oil will be acceptable.

    If the engine oil has not been changed for many years (if, for example, the car has just come out of storage for 20 years) you may want to remove the oil pan and clean out any sludge or oil build-up, before putting in new oil.

    One consideration: some folks believe that -- if a car's engine is really "used" and has a lot of sludge build-up throughout the engine, you should use a NON-detergent type oil, lest the modern (detergent) oil loosen the sludge and get it into circulation. This would be bad because large hunks of the sludge could get caught in oil passages and stop the oil from circulating. Some folks debate that whole notion. (Generally, you can only find non-detergent oil in a straight weight like 30W, if you can find it at all. You can't get 10W-40 for example, in non-detergent.) But if your engine's pretty clean inside, don't worry and just use a standard multi-viscosity modern detergent type oil.

    One more caution: There is an ongoing controversy about the amount of zinc in today's oils. There used to be a lot more, and its traditional purpose was to lubricate the cam lobes in cars with flat tappets, but modern cars use roller tappets so this became increasingly unnecessary. Then catalytic converters came along and it was discovered that the zinc in the oil fouled up the converters, so the zinc has gradually been reduced. Trouble is, a great number of older cars that have flat tappet (versus roller tappets) and without the zinc, the cam lobes may (or may not, depending on your opinion) be damaged. The safest thing is to use an oil with a good amount of zinc additive (or a zinc additive alone, in your crankcase). One of these is Shell's "Rotella T", which is really a diesel oil but has more zinc than most oils. (Look for the "CI4" or "CI4+" symbol on the can.) I myself use Brad Penn racing oil and I get it by the carton so it comes out being just a bit more than standard oil. You have to find a Brad Penn distributor to get this, and I have a distributor near me. The whole thing may turn out to be an old wives tale but I have heard enough horror stories (mostly from people who race cars with the older flat-tappet engines) of cams being ground down when no zinc is in the oil. So, see if you can find some Rotella T with the CI-4 or CI-4+ marking, and try using that. This is a modern oil with the detergent, so if you

    By the way, you may want to place your future messages in the "Hudson" Forum, which is at http://classiccar.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=showcat&catid=13&Itemid=129 . You will probably get a much better response there, than you do in the "General" Forum, which is for all automotive marques.
  • Terraplane33Terraplane33
    Posts: 231Gold Member
    What about oil for prewar cars with partial central lubrication ?
    Location : France
  • michelegiudicimichelegiudici
    Posts: 17Hitchhiker
    Thanks! So better a mineral oil. Not a synthetic oil...
    Cheers from Switzerland.
    Michele
  • walts garage-53
    Posts: 1,468Platinum Member
    With 5,000 miles, use a modern 10=40 oil. The brand you start with, use from then on and change every 3,000 miles along with a filter. Walt.
  • [Deleted User]
    Posts: 123Member
    I don't think I would give too much worry about hunting for an oli with zinc. For many years I have seen cam lobs go flat and lifters dish. What ever zinc that was in the oil those many years ago did not protect the cam and lifters from that happening.

    As for synthetic over the dinosaur oil, with all the addatives in modern oils I think the only real advantage with synthetic is going longer between changes.
  • sunexim
    Posts: 2Hitchhiker
    Yes, all the modern motor oil will be right for your car, the more important is to change it periodically when it is needed.
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    Posts: 10Greasemonkey
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    Posts: 10Greasemonkey
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  • impala0098impala0098
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    www.classiccaroil.com

    this oil has the right amounts of zddp to protect your cam and lifters.
  • impala0098impala0098
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    modern motor oil could be killing your engine..

    since the 1990s the EPA has been rapidly removing an additive called ZDDP from engine oil, this additive created an important barrier of zinc and phosphorous to prevent cam and lifter scuffing.

    lucky for you there is now an American made oil that is fully fortified with zddp please read more at www.classiccaroil.com