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In this Discussion
- Lee ODell October 2010
- Oldcar_Mechanic October 2010
- Richie October 2010
No spin rear end.
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Is anyone here familiar with the no-spin 9" center section? The car I recently bought has one and it makes lots of clunk noises. Reading their site they mention that that is normal, just want your opinions, thanks, Richie.
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That is normal for that rear end Richie. For a street car it is unpleasant. A none locking rear end would be better for a daily driver. However, the locker rear end does well for drag racing.
One other unpleasant result of a locking rear end is that front tires wear out faster because the rear end wants to make the care go straight when in a turn. So the tires must be turned sharper than a car equiped with a none locking rear end.
I learned that when I put a posi rear end in my car. Before doing that I got very even tire wear across the treads. After installing the posi the front tires began wearing faster on the outer edges. Because the posi is pushing the front tires to go straight when they are turned which caused the tires to scuff more rubber from the outer edge of tires.
Lee O'Dell -
Lee ODell wrote:That is normal for that rear end Richie. For a street car it is unpleasant. A none locking rear end would be better for a daily driver. However, the locker rear end does well for drag racing.
One other unpleasant result of a locking rear end is that front tires wear out faster because the rear end wants to make the care go straight when in a turn. So the tires must be turned sharper than a car equiped with a none locking rear end.
I learned that when I put a posi rear end in my car. Before doing that I got very even tire wear across the treads. After installing the posi the front tires began wearing faster on the outer edges. Because the posi is pushing the front tires to go straight when they are turned which caused the tires to scuff more rubber from the outer edge of tires.
Lee O'Dell
Lee, thanks for the info. All the clunking when going backwards and then forward is annoying. Guess I can put up with it though.Thanks again.Richie. -
Richie wrote:Is anyone here familiar with the no-spin 9" center section? The car I recently bought has one and it makes lots of clunk noises. Reading their site they mention that that is normal, just want your opinions, thanks, Richie.
Richie, am I'm reading this right, is the noise only when you back up and then go forward? That sounds like there might be to much back lash between the ring gear and pinion. The normal sounds I thought you were asking about was while the car was in a turn. That is when the locking up begins making noise which is normal for a Ford locker rear end.
What kind of car was it you bought?
Lee O'Dell
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Lee ODell wrote:Richie wrote:Is anyone here familiar with the no-spin 9" center section? The car I recently bought has one and it makes lots of clunk noises. Reading their site they mention that that is normal, just want your opinions, thanks, Richie.
Richie, am I'm reading this right, is the noise only when you back up and then go forward? That sounds like there might be to much back lash between the ring gear and pinion. The normal sounds I thought you were asking about was while the car was in a turn. That is when the locking up begins making noise which is normal for a Ford locker rear end.
What kind of car was it you bought?
Lee O'Dell
Lee, the noise is there at every turn and backing up. Reading the "No-Spin" web site ,they say noises are to be expected but I didn't think the noises would be this pronounced. My brother had a new 61 Ford Hi-Po back in 61 with what they called equal-lock back then which was a limited slip posi and was noisey making sharp turns.
I bought a 62 Galaxie Hi-Po 406 4 speed. It is an authentic factory Hi-Po, number on frame matches the vin tag. I will get used to the "no-Spin" center section, but look for a replacement chunk with more highway friendly gears. The 411's are fun around town but not for highway travel. Thanks Lee, Richie.
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Cool car you have. Those were exciting times back then with all the Hi performance cars. Each year the cars became more powerful than the last. And to see which make of car would win at the drag strip.
You and your brothers cars reminded me of my senior year in hi school 1961. My friends 56 Chevy went up against a 61 Hi Performace Ford and smoked it. The Ford owner insisted seeing what kind of motor and headers was in it. That Ford had beautiful cast headers. When the hood was opened there was a little small block 4 barrel engine with stock inefficient exhaust manifolds duel exhaust. He couldn't believe his eyes and went away fuming.
All that was done to the 265 was to bore it to 283, install corvette 11-1 pistons and a Duntov cam with stock inefficient exhaust manifords with duel exhaust. But it did have 4.56 gears with positration and 6" slicks behind the 3 speed trans. It was fun to go street racing with him. He raced all the showroom stock Hi Po's Ford, Chevy, Pont and Ply. He never got beat. I'm sure the gears and slicks made the difference.
Those were the days. They were building freeway thru town back then. Where ever they had a highway section finished but not open to the public was fair game for street races. Didn't have to worry about traffic.
Sorry, got a little off the subject.
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Cool story Lee, my buddy had a 56 Chevy with a 265 powerpack with a cam, solids, duals and gears. We had a ball back then, btw I graduated in 61 also. Those were the best years to grow up, it will never be that way again. Richie.
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Lee, talking old cars to anyone is an easy way to get off subject. It's always good to hear stories from others when they were young. Funny thing is, no matter where you lived the stories were very similar from back in those days.
Richie, it will always be that way in my mind, ha,ha.
Ha, Ha, you guys graduated in 61? I did too, BUT, mine was from grammer school. Now I feel better that you old guys are around, ha,ha.
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Oldcar_Mechanic wrote:Lee, talking old cars to anyone is an easy way to get off subject. It's always good to hear stories from others when they were young. Funny thing is, no matter where you lived the stories were very similar from back in those days.
Richie, it will always be that way in my mind, ha,ha.
Ha, Ha, you guys graduated in 61? I did too, BUT, mine was from grammer school. Now I feel better that you old guys are around, ha,ha.
Ron
Hey Ron, good to hear from you, bet you got some stories too !! Here is my claim to fame. In 63 I had a 63 custom 2 dr sedan, x state troopers car. I built a 406 put a 427 K cam with solids, 427 long headers, 457 gears, and 6 two's. It was fast, I was undefeated for a year of street racing. It was only a heavy duty 3 speed with a blow shield but when I hit third gear those 6 deuses wide open was music to my ears. I went in the Army in 64 and sold the car. Talk to you later Ron, Richie. Oh, buy the way Ron the 63 I had would blow the doors off the 62 Galaxie 406 4 speed with 411's I just bought. -
Ok Ron. Now before we all get back on subject, fess up Ron. What were you racing back in the good old days of hi school.
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Richie. are you saying you drove that car on the street with a 457 ????????? My 69 Cutlass has a factory 433 and with the original TH350 the engine was at 3,300 cruising at 50 MPH. I had a friend build me a 200 R4 when I was still in Illinois and now it runs at a little over 2,000. I can't imagine a 457 driving on the street, but holy crap you sure were prepared for anything, ha,ha. Bet you wish you still had that. But then again I reckon you could say that about a lot of cars of the day.
Lee, I just started driving in 63 as I was a youngster, ha,ha. I had a 55 Pontiac that I got for $90. I also picked up a 58 Chevy Del Ray 2 dr. sedan for $30. Had a friend that had a 63 Chevy 09 that he totaled but saved the engine and I was lucky enough to get that. Put the two together, painted the 58 pumpkin orange and went to the local drive in diner. (Didn't ya love the car hops? ha,ha)
But, in 65 I sold all that old stuff and bought a new 66 Dodge Coronet 440 with a 383, 4 speed (bench seat) and posi. We used to have a place not far away that was a strip of road nobody hardly ever used some of us would go to for friendly compitition. I used to beat a guy that had a 65 Coronet with a 426 and 4 Speed. I guess the driver is more important then the car sometimes.
Uncle Sam and a nation called Viet Nam changed all that.
The more one talks about the past, the more things one remembers. Ah the good old days! I guess we could go on for days, eh?
I love hearing the stories. When I worked for the Car Exchange working on classic and antique cars, I always liked the old timers coming in. They would come back in the shop and love to tell me about all their good times. Thing is, I loved it too.
So, keep telling those stories guys, someone out here is listening.
Peace
Ron -
Hey Ron, it is always nice to remember the good old days. It does our hearts good think back to the fun we had as kids. My brothers and I talk about our teen years and laugh for hours. And yes I drove my 63 to work every day, remember gas was 25 cents a gal back then, mileage was never a thought. I remember like it was yesterday going to the drags and watching Tasca Ford, Hayden Profit's mopar and dyno Don's Chevy duke it out every week. Now I'm an old man and just putt around about 25 mph. LOL. Talk to you later Ron. Richie.