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46 Hudson Pro Street vin tag help...
  • jlm4567jlm4567
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    I just traded for a 46 Hudson coupe. all the paperwork and state stickers from the previous owner are in order. My problem is the metal vin tag disappeared somewhere. Is there anyone that makes replacement tags?
  • Ol racerOl racer
    Posts: 1,677Platinum Member
    Well this may sound unethical; but registering old vehicles with DNV can be a pain; If you have correct Papers with the Serial number, cut a pc of thin Aluminum for a Tag then stamp the serial number in the tag then rivet onto the door frame. Small Punches are available a t Swap Meets and may take a couple trys ubtil you get numbers aligned orderly.

    The Factory Tag has SERIAL NO. painted/printed across the top but its usually worn off with small numbers stamped across bottom measuring (aprx) 1" x 2 .
  • jlm4567jlm4567
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    the car is legal in every way. nothing illegal. previous owner just misplaced the tag. do you have a photo of what tha real tag looks like?
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    No VIN tags on cars this old, they are just serial numbers.

    Are you sure it isn't there? Look on the right-front door pillar, about level with the glove compartment.

    If you don't find it on the right-front door pillar, you'll also find them stamped in several other places - harder to see/find though (no plate in other locations, just stamped in the metal)... Do a search of threads on the forum, it has been discussed a few times.
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,769Moderator
    The serial plate "blank" is available from K-Gap for $10. Here is the page from their on-line catalog: http://www.k-gap.com/cat/Page14.pdf
  • jlm4567jlm4567
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    thanks for the response. I did check with K-GAP and they are at the nationals. will reopen 8/16. gotta wait 2 weeks I guess. does anyone have a photo of the serial tag, the measurements and measured location? I'll just make my own as long as it looks correct.
  • Ol racerOl racer
    Posts: 1,677Platinum Member
    FYI



    KGap Repo is worth waiting for but theTag Is roughly 1" high by 2" long located on my '37 on the right front door Post 4" above top hinge fastened by 2 'drive rivets'.

    My '47 is way out back but know its located in the same general area. Suggest look for two rivet holes on your RF Post. Top of Tag has painted black CAR SERIAL NO. but that usually fades off over yrs... Across bottom the Serial Numbers are simply stamped and what you need for tracing.
  • jlm4567jlm4567
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    thanks,you've been a great help. no holes or anything. my door posts are clean. the car is finished and everything is all painted and pretty.
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    If it will help, here is a photo of the Serial number tag on one of my '46 Hudson pickups -
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  • jlm4567jlm4567
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    thanks again!
  • hudsontechhudsontech
    Posts: 4,043Platinum Member
    46HudsonPU wrote:
    If it will help, here is a photo of the Serial number tag on one of my '46 Hudson pickups -



    Incidentally, the first two digits (38) are the model number - the remaining are the actual serial number.



    1946 is an oddball year for serial numbers - while the serial numbers began with "3", ie, 31 - Super Six, 32 - Commodore Six, 33 - Super 8, 34 - Commodore 8 and 38 - Pickup trucks, the actual model numbers began with "5", ie 51, 52, 53, 54 and 58.

    In previous years this digit would indicate the year; ie 1942, for example, began with a two and so on. So these 1946 numbers would indicate 1943 (3) build date going by serial numbers and 1945 (5) build date going by the model numbers. Going by the Hudson numbering system 1946 models should have started with a "6" - my guess is this is another Hudson factory unexplained mystery as to why they did it that way and another thing that drives Hudson researchers crazy.



    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN





    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • Ol racerOl racer
    Posts: 1,677Platinum Member
    FYI

    Nobody will measure the location. Just stamp the numbers in a line like 46 Hudson Pictured, then take a Tracing with soft lead pencil on a thin sheet a paper. Take a few tracings and enclose the best one. The painted Serial No lettering wont show on the Tracing any way. I live in Pa and made my Tag. If you apply for a reconstructed Title Pa will send you a Tag & rivits. I have a collectable Plate on my Chevy powered Hudson Trk. You probably know they want front rear and side pictures.

    If Pro St will be obvious modified but Ive seen Antique Plates on Hudsons with V8 Motors because DNV doesnt want open hood pic's.
  • jlm4567jlm4567
    Posts: 7Hitchhiker
    made a tag, got vin verified, registered with antique plates. all is well with the world...
  • jsrail
    Posts: 1,534Platinum Member
    I remember back in 1979 I bought a '42 Ford Pickup that had no tag anywhere, nor in the door post where they were in those years, in fact had no holes anywhere. We figured it may have been a military vehicle, who knows, but I still had to have it registered and it had no tags anywhere.

    So, an old hot rod buddy and I went up to one of our favorite old car wrecking yards. It didn't have any trucks like mine, but I did find an old Plymouth with a tag that was held on by screws. I simply unscrewed it, cut off the brand name with tin snips, riveted it on the firewall of my truck, and sprayed the firewall and tag all black. Then about 4:45pm, I went across the street to the California DMV and they sent a pregnant gal over to inspect the VIN tag. She took one look at the tag and saw a number, and that was all she cared about. I got it registered as a '42 (no "reconstruct" title, thank goodness) without a hiccup, and she didn't even notice that '42 Ford pickups didn't usually come with SBC V8's!

    Now, I was young and reckless then and I don't recommend this behavior now, but its still a good story.
  • MikeWAMikeWA
    Posts: 1,446Platinum Member
    Bought a horse trailer from out of state, so it had to be inspected for VIN number. Couldn't find it anywhere. State trooper inspector said, "just keep scratching around, I'll bet you'll find it" and kind of winked.



    So I went home, scratched off the paint on the tongue in kind of a non-obvious place, borrowed a set of numeral stamps, put on the number, painted over it, then a couple weeks later scratched the paint off to reveal the number. Went in for the inspection, the guy laughed and said, "See, I knew you'd find it."