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Stepdown exhaust manifold "adapters" with pictures
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Today we picked up 14 exhaust manifold "adapters" from the foundry. These are the adapters previously sold by Danny Barrier and Mark Hudson. We will clean and paint them, and ship as the orders come in. Price with shipping in the lower 48 is $175.00 If you have questions, email pbebop@gmail.com
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,446Platinum Member
    No question, but a picture is worth a thousand words (or some such thing)!:)
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Russell:

    Your right, will be working on it. Can email pics in a couple of days, will have to learn about posting pics on this forum. Thanks, appreciate the advice. Bob
  • HotrodHR
    Posts: 201Gold Member
    Bob:



    I thought you were a forum guru :D It's easy to post those pics...



    Just click "Post Reply" in the thread, type your message...



    Then go down to the "Additional Options" section and click the button "Manage Attachments" here you'll be able to upload your individual pic files.



    Use the "Browse" feature to find the desired image on your computer click on it so the file and location appears in the "box" then click "Upload". It may take a several seconds for the file to be uploaded. If the file is too large it won't upload (can't remember the size limits) there's work arounds for this so we can cross that bridge later if need be.



    Once the file is "uploaded" it appears in the "window" and you're ready to upload another image. Just repeat the above for additional images. I believe there's currently a 5 image limit per reply post.



    Once you've uploaded just click "Submit Reply" and your message will be posted with the pics.



    Now that I'm thoroughly confused we'll wait for those pics! ;)



    Craig
  • RichieRichie
    Posts: 904Platinum Member
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Today we picked up 14 exhaust manifold "adapters" from the foundry. These are the adapters previously sold by Danny Barrier and Mark Hudson. We will clean and paint them, and ship as the orders come in. Price with shipping in the lower 48 is $175.00 If you have questions, email pbebop@gmail.com



    Bob, when they are done I'll take one, just let me know how to send payment. Richie.
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Thanks for the support and comments guys. Will check it out and post maybe tomorrow. Thanks, Bob
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,146Moderator
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Thanks for the support and comments guys. Will check it out and post maybe tomorrow. Thanks, Bob
    Bob - If you have issues or problems posting the photos, send them to me and I'll see what I can do. Just click on 'Rick' below... :rolleyes: :D
  • mjsandbemjsandbe
    Posts: 340Platinum Member
    I am interested and would like to see a picture. Thanks :)
    [b]Michael S.[/b]
    Chronicles of my search for and adventures with my Hornet http://52hornet.blogspot.com
  • lockport123
    Posts: 24Greasemonkey
    Hello Don, newby from Canada, what exactly is an exhaust manifold adapter?? Thx Don
  • mjsandbemjsandbe
    Posts: 340Platinum Member
    Here are pictures from Robert Parks of the manifold adapters.
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    [b]Michael S.[/b]
    Chronicles of my search for and adventures with my Hornet http://52hornet.blogspot.com
  • Ol racerOl racer
    Posts: 1,676Platinum Member
    lockport123 wrote:
    Hello Don, newby from Canada, what exactly is an exhaust manifold adapter?? Thx Don



    These are nice reproduction Exhaust Adaptors like the Fabulous Hudson Hornet 7X Racers used for Dual Exhaust outlets...
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,365Platinum Member
    Looks great. I had one of the originals made by Randy and sold it at Pigeon Forge a couple years ago. Has anyone come forward with a mateing adapter and gasket for the outlet??
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Thanks guys for the nice comments. I'm attempting to have the plates made to bolt to the rear(outlet) of the adapter. I've been told that if they are flame cut, they may warp. Still checking to have another method/source for them made. Thanks, Bob
  • DaveFuryDaveFury
    Posts: 642Platinum Member
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Thanks guys for the nice comments. I'm attempting to have the plates made to bolt to the rear(outlet) of the adapter. I've been told that if they are flame cut, they may warp. Still checking to have another method/source for them made. Thanks, Bob



    Bob,

    Have them made 1/2" thick. They won't warp when cut then.
    Dave W.

    What's life without a Hudson?
  • duncan
    Posts: 399Gold Member
    Try Lazer cutting. I wotk in a factory that ises stainless eteel of 14 -18 guage thickness. thats how we get it done. duncan Happy New Year:D
  • duncan
    Posts: 399Gold Member
    Sorry about the spelling I had my Birthday to day big 60.
  • hdsn49hdsn49
    Posts: 391Platinum Member
    duncan wrote:
    Sorry about the spelling I had my Birthday to day big 60.



    Your still a young man to me. I turned 60 last Saturday. Happy Birthday.
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
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    hdsn49 wrote:
    Your still a young man to me. I turned 60 last Saturday. Happy Birthday.



    Jus wate untle yur 70,, !;)
  • duncan
    Posts: 399Gold Member
    Hi guys Thanks for cheering me up. duncan:D
  • Ol racerOl racer
    Posts: 1,676Platinum Member
    FYI

    Age is only a Number especially when you tinkering on a Hudson. Personally I feel like a teen again when working on mine.....



    Chronologically looking back on MY past decades, It took forever to get to 16, but I owned a Hudson before that...when I was In my twenty's days seemed long and time went slow, but time picked up pace in the Thirty's, then in the Forty's time went faster. However in my Fifty's Birthdays seemed like every 3 months and time was a blurr, but now in my Sixty's months are going by like days used to, far too fast.... I guess its because going down hill time goes faster now..... I hope you guys just entering the Sixty's can slow it up and enjoy....
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    We have ordered the outlet plates made for the adapters. The plates will be 1/4 inch or thicker, with appropriate holes. Will work to get the gaskets to match the plates.

    The plates will cost $10 each (plasma cut), we dont know the gasket cost yet. These can be ordered with the DUAL OUTLET EXHAUST MANIFOLD ADAPTERS and no additional shipping.

    Email to hetpbebop@gmail.com drop the het. Thanks, Bob
  • Hal
    Posts: 54Senior Contributor
    Dale Cooper sells the gaskets.
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    Thanks, will check Dale for gaskets. Bob
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
    Posts: 2,365Platinum Member
    Hal wrote:
    Dale Cooper sells the gaskets.



    Since it would be the same gasket Dale would have the gasket that fits between the original exhaust manifold and the extension, but probably won't have the twin outlet to pipe flange gasket.:)
  • esfoderesfoder
    Posts: 129Expert Adviser
    Any power improvment with these worth the cost?



    Dusty
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton
    Posts: 3,446Platinum Member
    esfoder wrote:
    Any power improvment with these worth the cost?

    Dusty


    Depends on your estimation of worth, but full headers will develop an extra 20% hp increase. My GUESS is that the split/dual exhaust should give you somewhere between 13-17% increase. Also, the sound of dualies from a Hudson I-6 is just about priceless.
  • `Hudsonator`Hudsonator
    Posts: 858Platinum Member
    Yes, the sound of a dualed out Hudson is priceless.



    I have no idea how much hp increase they'd give. My guess would be like Russell's.



    However, the vehicles I heard run the adapter with full dual pipes sounded as good as headers.
    Gimme a Hudson, with that "Instant Action"
  • Hal
    Posts: 54Senior Contributor
    SuperDave wrote:
    Since it would be the same gasket Dale would have the gasket that fits between the original exhaust manifold and the extension, but probably won't have the twin outlet to pipe flange gasket.:)



    Indeed, Dale does have the twin outlet flange gasket. I've purchased them from him before.



    Hal
  • esfoderesfoder
    Posts: 129Expert Adviser
    Will they fit the short wheel base cars?



    Dusty
  • PAULARGETYPEPAULARGETYPE
    Posts: 1,236Platinum Member
    YES THEY WILL FIT ON A SHORT WHEEL BASE CAR HERE IS THE ONE ON MY 50 PACEMAKER CV I JUST LOVE MINE I'M LOOKING FOR PHOTOS OF THE BACK OF THE CAR WITH THE DUELS COMING OUT THE PIPES COME OUT JUST INSIDE THE BUMPERETTES



    http://hudsonpix.multiply.com/photos/album/1/50_Hudson_P.CV_restoBABY#photo=87
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    Paul:

    Did you remove the damper plate from the bottom of the exhaust manifold, we can see the counter weight and coil spring. Thanks, Bob
  • wano1949
    Posts: 59Senior Contributor
    Thought I would throw this on here.
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  • HotrodHR
    Posts: 201Gold Member
    Bob:



    What are the dimensions of the inlet flange (exhaust manifold side) of the adapter (bolt cl to cl distance and opening size)? Your pics on the first page shoes the outlet dimensions...



    If I recall correctly you mentioned something about the adapter not "fitting" on the 175 / 212 motors... if the size is the same and orientation and space permits maybe it could work... or perhaps an adapter for the adapter could be made.



    It would definitely be a cool option to run with the two barrel manifold if I go that route. Of course I could order one of those split manifolds....





    Craig
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  • Harry HillHarry Hill
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    Will that adaptor work on the Hash?
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    Harry:

    I called Danny Barrier about the adapter fitting on a Hash(55-57) 6 cyl engine. He said he didnt know, havent checked with Mark Hudson yet. I suggest someone with intimate knowledge of the Hashes let us know.



    Craig:

    Will be in your area this evening. Will call you on cel. Guess about 6. Will bring an adapter to show you. Thanks guys. More later, Hudsonly, Bob
  • SuperDaveSuperDave
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    Harry Hill wrote:
    Will that adaptor work on the Hash?



    The adaptor will not fit a Hash manifold. If you use a stepdown intake and exhaust manifold you should clear the body OK.:)
  • russmaas
    Posts: 475Platinum Member
    FYI I am having a guy in town make these bottom plates that bolt off the bottom of the barrier adapter with his CNC machine this week. Not trying to take business away just needed one for a job I'm doing on a members car. But can have him make a few more if soemone needs them, no mark up, just cost, plus shipping if someone needs them now.
  • Clutch guy
    Posts: 811Platinum Member
    HotrodHR wrote:
    Bob:



    What are the dimensions of the inlet flange (exhaust manifold side) of the adapter (bolt cl to cl distance and opening size)? Your pics on the first page shoes the outlet dimensions...



    If I recall correctly you mentioned something about the adapter not "fitting" on the 175 / 212 motors... if the size is the same and orientation and space permits maybe it could work... or perhaps an adapter for the adapter could be made.



    It would definitely be a cool option to run with the two barrel manifold if I go that route. Of course I could order one of those split manifolds....





    Craig



    Look'n good Craig!! You must be working on it alot!
  • HotrodHR
    Posts: 201Gold Member
    Not spending enough time on it... been busy. Got everything ready to go just need to finish bolting it together and get her cranking.



    Once we get her running good (hopefully) I'll explore the two barrel option...





    I see you're planning an "open house" (meet) at your place... might have to see if I can swing a road trip...



    Craig
  • HotrodHR
    Posts: 201Gold Member
    BTW...



    Bob did stop by my shop last night with those dual exhaust manifold adapters... nice pieces!



    If you have a motor that these will work on you really ought to be running them.



    Short of having headers these have got to dramatically improve exhaust flow... not to mention the the potential sound improvements and of course the "cool" factor (even for us old guys)!!!:cool: :cool: :cool:



    Craig
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Thanks Craig, good bump. Bob
  • HotrodHR
    Posts: 201Gold Member
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Thanks Craig, good bump. Bob



    You're welcome... now if they only would fit my car....



    Craig
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    Al & Richard:

    Your adapters mailed today.



    Richie:

    Yours will be mailed Mon.



    Thanks all, Bob
  • RichieRichie
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    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Al & Richard:

    Your adapters mailed today.



    Richie:

    Yours will be mailed Mon.



    Thanks all, Bob



    Thanks Bob, Richie.
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    Richie:

    Mailed your adapter, plate, and gasket today. Thanks, Bob
  • RichieRichie
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    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Richie:

    Mailed your adapter, plate, and gasket today. Thanks, Bob



    Thanks Bob. Richie.
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Walt-LA

    Thanks for your order. Will email when shipped. Thanks, Bob
  • RichieRichie
    Posts: 904Platinum Member
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Richie:

    Mailed your adapter, plate, and gasket today. Thanks, Bob



    Bob,I rec'd the manifold adapter today. I took pics of the way it looked when rec'd and as I un-packed it. It arrived in excellent shape. It was packaged very well, as a matter of fact the guys that make the "black boxes" for the airlines has nothing on you !! I hope to start on it this weekend. All parts look great, nice job and thanks for all your hard work Bob. Richie.
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
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    Will be in Murfreesboro, TN tomorrow morning 10-12 for our Midsouth Hudson club meeting. We will meet in the AACA club building behind Shoneys. We will bring 6 dual outlet exhaust manifold adapters and plates, if you are in the neighbor hood and would like to see them call me cel 256-762-4211. Hudsonly, Bob
  • jjbubaboyjjbubaboy
    Posts: 568Platinum Member
    Hey,

    So what was the determination on if the adaptors fit the 212?

    Would love to have one for my 36T!

    Thanks,

    Jeff
  • bobdriveshudsonbobdriveshudson
    Posts: 582Platinum Member
    Jeff:

    We have a 47 Commodore coupe with a 212, exhaust exits to the front of the engine and turns down and to the rear. Cannot see anyway it would fit.



    The dual outlet exhaust manifold adapter will fit all stock Hudson 232-262-308 engines using stock exhaust manifolds. We suggest removing the heat riser damper to improve exhaust flow with the "adapter".



    We may have forgotten a detail or two, someone may have more info or better technical advice, please council with us. Thanks.

    Hudsonly, Bob