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  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    Just some basic instructions on how to 'Rate' a thread, and give someone some 'Reputation'... Odd, but the 'Rate Thread' text in the circled box cannot be seen. Click the down arrow, and you should see the prompt to rate the thread - if you do not, you just need to scroll down on the 'overall screen' a bit -
    To give a thread a rating, see the screenshot below "Rate Thread" -
    index.php?option=com_community&view=photos&task=showimage&tmpl=component&imgid=1176&maxW=744&maxH=446
    To provide a Forum some reputation, see the screenshot below -
    index.php?option=com_community&view=photos&task=showimage&tmpl=component&imgid=1177&maxW=744&maxH=446

    As a note it would probably be a good idea to think twice before applying negative (disapproval) reputation... :eek:
  • BrowniepetersenBrowniepetersen
    Posts: 2,417Platinum Member
    I am trying to figure out why a rating system such as this is important? Most of those of us that post on the discussion page are just joining in on what the conversation at hand and depending on my mood I can be for or against the post or comment. If I am against and say something direct or punnishing--wham!!! I get a negative rating. Does that mean that no one will like me from then on? Perhaps if I express an opinion in one of the fields that I am a subject matter expert in, and it is not the same as the opinion of someone who has a high rating does that mean that my opinion is less valid or true? Why is it important that we place measurements on a fun part of our hobby? Does there always have to be a winner or a loser in every group?:confused:



    A recent member of our Forum helped me out on an issue the other day and I logged on to give him a positive point and the system sent me a note back and said: "why don't you pass around your ratings?" or the one that I got that said: "You should not post ratings as often." This whole thing is just nutz. It is somewhat like, Why does Snap, Crackle and Pop--Snap, Crackle and Pop? Why is it important to know why? Is this system of logic not the reason we do not have car judging in the HET? Just wondering? By the way, if I give someone enough negative feedback will that member be banned from participating?:confused:
    Brownie
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    Browniepetersen wrote:
    I am trying to figure out why a rating system such as this is important? Most of those of us that post on the discussion page are just joining in on what the conversation at hand and depending on my mood I can be for or against the post or comment. If I am against and say something direct or punnishing--wham!!! I get a negative rating. Does that mean that no one will like me from then on? Perhaps if I express an opinion in one of the fields that I am a subject matter expert in, and it is not the same as the opinion of someone who has a high rating does that mean that my opinion is less valid or true? Why is it important that we place measurements on a fun part of our hobby? Does there always have to be a winner or a loser in every group?:confused:

    A recent member of our Forum helped me out on an issue the other day and I logged on to give him a positive point and the system sent me a note back and said: "why don't you pass around your ratings?" or the one that I got that said: "You should not post ratings as often." This whole thing is just nutz. It is somewhat like, Why does Snap, Crackle and Pop--Snap, Crackle and Pop? Why is it important to know why? Is this system of logic not the reason we do not have car judging in the HET? Just wondering? By the way, if I give someone enough negative feedback will that member be banned from participating?:confused:
    Guess these are questions for our Web Admin, Ted...
  • 4Hud4Hud
    Posts: 149Expert Adviser
    I am here for information and a bit of entertainment, not to judge others. If I don't agree with someone, I just move along.
  • Ted W
    Posts: 267Gold Member
    Browniepetersen wrote:
    I am trying to figure out why a rating system such as this is important? Most of those of us that post on the discussion page are just joining in on what the conversation at hand and depending on my mood I can be for or against the post or comment. If I am against and say something direct or punnishing--wham!!! I get a negative rating. Does that mean that no one will like me from then on? Perhaps if I express an opinion in one of the fields that I am a subject matter expert in, and it is not the same as the opinion of someone who has a high rating does that mean that my opinion is less valid or true? Why is it important that we place measurements on a fun part of our hobby? Does there always have to be a winner or a loser in every group?:confused:

    A recent member of our Forum helped me out on an issue the other day and I logged on to give him a positive point and the system sent me a note back and said: "why don't you pass around your ratings?" or the one that I got that said: "You should not post ratings as often." This whole thing is just nutz. It is somewhat like, Why does Snap, Crackle and Pop--Snap, Crackle and Pop? Why is it important to know why? Is this system of logic not the reason we do not have car judging in the HET? Just wondering? By the way, if I give someone enough negative feedback will that member be banned from participating?:confused:


    First, understand this software is not a unique product for ClassicCar.com. It is in use on a million other sites, so every feature may or may not have significance to our members.

    The rating system is used to rate quality and accurate information, thus new people to forums can look to see if the posting member reputation is high, making the information good for decision making purposes. A lot of people come to the forum for help. It is reassuring to see that the community respects the posting members information enough to be of use by the one-time visitor. Also, the posting rating and reputation rating are two separate items.

    The infraction system is used to spot spam and trouble-makers. When an Infraction flag is placed on a post, it notifies Admin of a problem...naked photos, crapola vendors, fruits & nuts, and the occasional school yard brawl between normally good folks. Spam is the big enemy, but a dozen or so times a year its problem between members that needs sorted out. In 14 years, I have had to only ban about 6 people from the forums...which speaks very well of those that visit ClassicCar.com. In short, it is not used very often.

    You can give all the negative feedback you want, it will not lead to a ban. If you give too much negative feedback, it will start to reflect on your reputation. I believe in positive feedback, negative feedback is pointless. Remember what Mother said "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all." A good rule I think.

    A hint: If members are engaged in a "contest" where any type of personal slights are leveled...and those post disappear....consider it a friendly warning. Please don't write me with your position, I always side with myself in all cases. :rolleyes: Good Manners....are the best and at ClassicCar.com, our members have the best!!!!!
  • 46HudsonPU46HudsonPU
    Posts: 5,152Moderator
    Positive feedback only (please) - Absolutely correct and sensible. I only mentioned the 'disapproval' side as a footnote, to discourage that type of posting - since it is listed as an option.
  • twelchtwelch
    Posts: 107Expert Adviser
    46HudsonPU wrote:
    Positive feedback only (please) - Absolutely correct and sensible. I only mentioned the 'disapproval' side as a footnote, to discourage that type of posting - since it is listed as an option.



    The feature is there for negative feedback if members "really" want to use it. I think is was very much ok for you to share the use of it to others. It can be used as a tool. The greatest problem in using negative feedback is that many people do not know each personally and its hard to know personalities via written word. :D
    Ted J. Welch
    Managing Editor
    ClassicTruckShop.com
  • 66patrick6666patrick66
    Posts: 1,831Platinum Member
    Yeah, ain't that the truth.
    "The time has come", the Walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot,
    And whether pigs have wings..."
  • Jon BJon B
    Posts: 4,770Moderator
    I understand that, when one purchases forum software one can't necessarily delete all the options one doesn't like. And in general I am very happy with this forum. However (and this is probably directed more at the writers of the software) it seems to me that there are many more peripheral features here than I would personally choose to use. Smilies, ratings, polls -- these are all extraneous to the basic feature of this page, which is to allow the exchange of good, useful information. The more things you add, the more bells and whistles have to be added into the design of the page, and the more complicated it all seems.



    I completely understand the advertising -- that pays the bills. So I'm not objecting to that.



    I'm probably a voice crying in the wilderness, but I treat a lot of this stuff as a visual annoyance that probably bothers only me, LOL!



    All in all, though, I'm extremely happy with the Forum and grateful to Classiccar for allowing us Hudson people to have our own.
  • BrowniepetersenBrowniepetersen
    Posts: 2,417Platinum Member
    Could not agree with you more Jon....
    Brownie
  • twelchtwelch
    Posts: 107Expert Adviser
    Jon B wrote:
    I understand that, when one purchases forum software one can't necessarily delete all the options one doesn't like. And in general I am very happy with this forum. However (and this is probably directed more at the writers of the software) it seems to me that there are many more peripheral features here than I would personally choose to use. Smilies, ratings, polls -- these are all extraneous to the basic feature of this page, which is to allow the exchange of good, useful information. The more things you add, the more bells and whistles have to be added into the design of the page, and the more complicated it all seems.



    I completely understand the advertising -- that pays the bills. So I'm not objecting to that.



    I'm probably a voice crying in the wilderness, but I treat a lot of this stuff as a visual annoyance that probably bothers only me, LOL!



    All in all, though, I'm extremely happy with the Forum and grateful to Classiccar for allowing us Hudson people to have our own.





    The best plan is not to use those things that are...say...confusing. :rolleyes: There is never a need to do anything more than login and post or just read.



    I would be happy to pass your comments on to the software developers....but they would not care. Because each feature included comes from the pool of clients that buy the software.



    They don't add anything on a whim either, it takes a thousand rocks to knock these people into adding a feature. But I will ask for the "featureless" toggle switch that only shows only raw text for ol' Jon!! :D
    Ted J. Welch
    Managing Editor
    ClassicTruckShop.com
  • MikeWAMikeWA
    Posts: 1,446Platinum Member
    I'm not a big participant in the reputation feature either, but to top it all off, it doesn't even work! After seeing that gorgeous stretch pickup that Bent Metal did, I was inspired to give him a reputation point, especially since it seemed just ridiculous that I had more points than him! Went through the rigamarole, but his point never showed up. Well, I tried. . .